Who Controls Our Money Supply? Who Are the Money Masters?

democracydefinedcampaign · 31-07-2007, 02:56 AM

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THE MONEY MASTERS DOCUMENTARY.

Did you think your income tax pays for education, health, defence ?

Regarding 'national' or 'central' banks, e.g. the Bank of 'England', the 'Federal' Reserve, Banque de 'France', 'Deutsche' Bank, etc. of the so-called 'free' economies of Asia, Europe, Australia, South America:

Money is the function of banks. 97% of the U.K. money supply comes from private family banks and their consortia. Our government can only claim to "own" the bank insofar as it controls a paltry 3% of the money supply. Do not be confused between nominal government 'ownership' as set up in 1946 and creation of the money supplied into the economy. The Bank of England is a charade responsible for a mere 3%.

Householders with mortgages, credit card borrowing, small businesses with loans and so on, all those who now suffer from usurious interest rates charged by private banks, and the pre-planned devaluing of your money's buying power (through inflation from the issuing of currency in excess of growth of national product), have a good reason for voting out all political parties' candidates (Labour, Tory, Lib-Dem, etc.) who subject the population to behind-the-scenes undemocratic control.

Unless the population at large knows the source of the directives and power which control our politicians, all attempts to maintain political and personal freedom throughout the West will be to no avail. It is for these few people's private nefarious purpose that the amalgamation of Europe and now the North American Union (U.S., Canada, Mexico; the NAU) is taking place.

The Money Masters.

This documentary video (shown on U.S. PBS national educational T.V.) is endorsed by academics and economists, including Economics' Nobel laureate Professor Milton Friedman, Official Economics Adviser to the Reagan administration. (Professor Friedman also provided a Foreword for Democracy Defined textbook.)

The video is disturbing and enlightening viewing. Do you think that politicians run the world ? This fascinating documentary reveals that politicians are mere puppets. The money supply of the entire Western world is under the control of a minute and altogether malevolent clique. The cause and cure of all of today's ills are revealed by this excellently researched analysis.

If you wish to understand why so much evil is happening in the world, this is essential viewing.

Part One

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Part Two:

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For_England · 31-07-2007, 04:43 AM

They look very interesting. I'll try to listen tomorrow.

Ian C · 31-07-2007, 07:04 AM

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They look very interesting. I'll try to listen tomorrow

I wouldn't bother -
While you are trying to separate the wood from the trees,
the 'business' behind Democracy Defined Campaign Philosophy is into bookselling.

John Welch · 31-07-2007, 07:40 AM

The private household banks have repressed the ancient bank-jury system which paid yeomen fletchers their alms, unless they had noms de plume, non sub-judice.

John Doe · 31-07-2007, 08:35 AM

I have so far avoided commenting on DDC's woeful constitutional analysis, but the fact that they buy into so-called 'Money Reform' confirms to me that they are likely just another bunch of conspiracy nuts.

If the state controlled the entire distribution of money, credit and interest, it surely would be a dictatorship - just as if the state controlled all production. So what if private banks are involved in finance? Is that not quite appropriate in a capitalist system, the only system that has been shown historically to be compatible with modern liberal democracy?

That does not of course mean that I accept your figures at all. When the state absorbs more than 40% of GDP, as it does in the UK, it is pretty clear that private capital has been substantially expropriated. Fortunately the dynamism of the City of London has made good many of the deficiencies in our manufacturing and service industries. Without its contribution to our national economy the politicians would be unable to waste so much money.

I look forward to the revelation that interest is charged on money lending and that these money lenders are the source of all evil. All you need to do is throw in the words 'Zionists' and 'Illuminati' and you will have a fully complete world-view (or should that be Weltanschauung?).

No doubt I'll get the usual patronising guff from DDC now along with another lecture endorsed by academics, judges, statesmen and philosophers.

John Welch · 31-07-2007, 10:56 AM

"Philosopher" is from the Greek (pronounced "greke") /philosophos/, a great French-American.

paullotion · 31-07-2007, 12:47 PM

Why would the Government charge interest on the notes it prints,that makes no sense.
One of the main reasons the"The American war of Independence" was started is that the Bank of England did not want the colonies to print their own money(no interest charged,no debt),King George obliged and made it illegal for America to print its own money.
America won the war and continued to print their own money until the deceit of 1913,with the help Rockefellers,Morgans,Rothschilds,this brought in the Federal Reserve,a private bank.(like the Bank of England)

We need a written constitution like America limiting the role of government and that no private bank or banks can print the currency.

For_England · 31-07-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe

If the state controlled the entire distribution of money, credit and interest, it surely would be a dictatorship - just as if the state controlled all production. So what if private banks are involved in finance? Is that not quite appropriate in a capitalist system, the only system that has been shown historically to be compatible with modern liberal democracy?

This is an area that I need to learn more about; nor will I rule out that banking families and/or Illuminists do in fact rule the world; I have read enough quotes from leading statesment to the effect that the real people who rule the world are not the ones we think. I really don't know what to think of the whole money supply issue. Again, statesmen - and Jefferson and Andrew Jackson (if that wretch can be called a statesman) come to mind immediately - that the supply of money should not be in private hands. I think the alternative, as they saw it, as that government should issue money based upon silver, and that money should not be based upon debt at all. Silver is relatively abundant, and I do believe that the money in our pocket should be silver based, and our notes immediately redeemable upon demand.

John Doe · 31-07-2007, 02:08 PM

Interest is simply a charge for using a resource (i.e., borrowing money) that could be used elsewhere. There is no reason why banks or private individuals should not charge such a fee, and prohibiting it would do great damage to the economy.

'Money' can mean different things: a store of value, a means of exchange, credit, etc. Giving the government a monopoly on this would truly be a dictatorship. In fact, competing currencies would not be a bad idea.

BTW, the Bank of England is not private. It was nationalised by the postwar Labour Government. Even with its so-called "independence" (in reality, limited autonomy) it is a state institution.

Edit: my reply was to paullotion befor I saw the post by bnpforme.

For_England · 31-07-2007, 02:13 PM

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. - President James A. Garfield

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. - President Thomas Jefferson

History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance. -James Madison

If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. -Andrew Jackson

The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.
Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation,
therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely
controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world.
No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by
the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson, ("Repeal the Federal Reserve Banks" by Casimir Frank Gierut, p.31)

These things might be hard to accept in a day where 'globalisation' is accepted by conservatives under the guise of 'free trade'.

31-07-2007, 12:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
paullotion Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 331	Why would the Government charge interest on the notes it prints,that makes no sense. One of the main reasons the"The American war of Independence" was started is that the Bank of England did not want the colonies to print their own money(no interest charged,no debt),King George obliged and made it illegal for America to print its own money. America won the war and continued to print their own money until the deceit of 1913,with the help Rockefellers,Morgans,Rothschilds,this brought in the Federal Reserve,a private bank.(like the Bank of England) We need a written constitution like America limiting the role of government and that no private bank or banks can print the currency. Last edited by paullotion; 31-07-2007 at 12:51 PM.

31-07-2007, 02:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
John Doe Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 87	Interest is simply a charge for using a resource (i.e., borrowing money) that could be used elsewhere. There is no reason why banks or private individuals should not charge such a fee, and prohibiting it would do great damage to the economy. 'Money' can mean different things: a store of value, a means of exchange, credit, etc. Giving the government a monopoly on this would truly be a dictatorship. In fact, competing currencies would not be a bad idea. BTW, the Bank of England is not private. It was nationalised by the postwar Labour Government. Even with its so-called "independence" (in reality, limited autonomy) it is a state institution. Edit: my reply was to paullotion befor I saw the post by bnpforme. Last edited by John Doe; 31-07-2007 at 02:09 PM. Reason: See note

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31-07-2007, 04:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,689	They look very interesting. I'll try to listen tomorrow.

31-07-2007, 07:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	The private household banks have repressed the ancient bank-jury system which paid yeomen fletchers their alms, unless they had noms de plume, non sub-judice.

31-07-2007, 08:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
John Doe Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 87	I have so far avoided commenting on DDC's woeful constitutional analysis, but the fact that they buy into so-called 'Money Reform' confirms to me that they are likely just another bunch of conspiracy nuts. If the state controlled the entire distribution of money, credit and interest, it surely would be a dictatorship - just as if the state controlled all production. So what if private banks are involved in finance? Is that not quite appropriate in a capitalist system, the only system that has been shown historically to be compatible with modern liberal democracy? That does not of course mean that I accept your figures at all. When the state absorbs more than 40% of GDP, as it does in the UK, it is pretty clear that private capital has been substantially expropriated. Fortunately the dynamism of the City of London has made good many of the deficiencies in our manufacturing and service industries. Without its contribution to our national economy the politicians would be unable to waste so much money. I look forward to the revelation that interest is charged on money lending and that these money lenders are the source of all evil. All you need to do is throw in the words 'Zionists' and 'Illuminati' and you will have a fully complete world-view (or should that be Weltanschauung?). No doubt I'll get the usual patronising guff from DDC now along with another lecture endorsed by academics, judges, statesmen and philosophers.

31-07-2007, 10:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	"Philosopher" is from the Greek (pronounced "greke") /philosophos/, a great French-American.

31-07-2007, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
For_England Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,689	I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802) Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. - President James A. Garfield If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. - President Thomas Jefferson History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance. -James Madison If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. -Andrew Jackson The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson, ("Repeal the Federal Reserve Banks" by Casimir Frank Gierut, p.31) These things might be hard to accept in a day where 'globalisation' is accepted by conservatives under the guise of 'free trade'.