Who Controls Our Money Supply? Who Are the Money Masters?

John Carter · 17-08-2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyG

They have as much a worry about that happening as acorns and pomegranates taking over the money supply.

I know loads of Americans who're now keeping money in their banks in other currencies.

Quick tip of the housing market and a further fall of the dollar and liberty dollars could become the new pokemon.

TonyG · 17-08-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

I know loads of Americans who're now keeping money in their banks in other currencies.

Quick tip of the housing market and a further fall of the dollar and liberty dollars could become the new pokemon.

Keeping other currencies is one thing, buying 'Liberty Dollars' is no different than buying Pokemon! Currency it ain't and never will be.

It's odd, how in the middle of this crisis the USD has bounced back by 4% after hitting its lows a couple of weeks ago...

democracydefinedcampaign · 17-08-2007, 03:39 PM

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THE CRIMES OF USURY AND FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING.

The paramount destructive results to Western civilisation of Usury and Fractional Reserve Lending (see our previous posts for explanation) are engulfing every citizen and re-writing the statute book to exclude every constitutional and democratic concept of fairness, civilisation, justice and liberty.

As described by our previous posts and in the Money Masters video documentary, since the Second World War, every legislative programme and measure adverse to the interests of the British population has been introduced at the command of the money masters. Surely, the totalitarian agenda and behind the scenes machinations of the money masters are not above the intellectual grasp of the majority ?

We have made proposals as to how to relegitimise the banking and investment system. The contributions on this thread have wandered off on to interesting but relatively innocuous economic side-issues irrelevant to the Illegality of the Status Quo.

Have participants on this forum any additional serious suggestions of valid actions and programmes by which to block the money masters; retrieve the national wealth; expunge the national 'debt'; preserve our democracy, liberty and justice; and pass due and appropriate deterrent retribution on these Usurers and those who have aided and abetted their activities ?

Yours sincerely,
Joanna d'Oudney. Director.

SuperiorSteve · 25-08-2007, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bnpforme

This is an area that I need to learn more about; nor will I rule out that banking families and/or Illuminists do in fact rule the world; I have read enough quotes from leading statesment to the effect that the real people who rule the world are not the ones we think. I really don't know what to think of the whole money supply issue. Again, statesmen - and Jefferson and Andrew Jackson (if that wretch can be called a statesman) come to mind immediately - that the supply of money should not be in private hands. I think the alternative, as they saw it, as that government should issue money based upon silver, and that money should not be based upon debt at all. Silver is relatively abundant, and I do believe that the money in our pocket should be silver based, and our notes immediately redeemable upon demand.

It's weird coz the conspiracy nuts may be right. The EU, now the North American Union, African Union and an Asian Union. Regions of the World being made into blocs, there is some kind of conspiracy. The politicians lied to us, and there are connections between some of the main players, Bliar was chairman of the Fabian Society, the Fabian Society was supposedly founded by Rhodes who wanted to create a single Government for the World centred on Britain (who wouldn't, we are the best after all. I'd love Britain to rule the World).

I'm actually starting to believe there really is some kind of conspiracy. One of the Rothschild's was supposed to have said "Give me control of a Nation's finances and I care not who makes her laws", true, laws don't matter when you control somebody's money.

John Welch · 25-08-2007, 08:07 AM

"Surely, the totalitarian agenda and behind the scenes machinations of the money masters are not above the intellectual grasp of the majority ?"
Now come on you people! Agree with this campaign! What's wrong with the lot of you?

democracydefinedcampaign · 25-08-2007, 03:46 PM

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Hello, Steve,

We saw your comment to the effect that you are "actually starting to believe there really is some kind of conspiracy."

As you know, to occur, all events, great and small, require causes; the event is the effect produced by the cause. The causes behind criminal events, that is, crimes, are not willingly revealed by those responsible for them. Obviously, the participants involved in a widespread criminal activity will always seek to conceal their being identified as the criminals, the cause itself behind their crime. Wherever possible, they will recruit dupes and pay willing accomplices to sow misinformation which covers their 'tracks' and makes people look elsewhere for explanation of the atrocities which they actuate.

Like all the rest of us, you cannot blame yourself for not knowing about a criminal conspiracy when the evidence of its occurrence has been carefully concealed from your notice. But when a gross crime of massive proportions is exposed, and the conventional authorities -- our political representatives and the paid judicial and police forces -- have allowed themselves to be so manipulated as to have become accomplices to the crime, then it becomes the responsibility of all of us, and indeed a matter of survival, to make sure that we each do everything of which we are capable, to annihilate the perpetrators' continuing towards their illegitimate objectives; and to achieve rectification of the Illegality of the Status Quo.

As individuals, our very first step concerns information, that is, the evidence to the crime. People discover that, when they begin to look for the evidence, it has been there all the time. This fact immediately exposes and indicts amongst others, the mass media, the Home Office, and the state educational establishment, as tacit participants (both before and after the fact), in the long-continuing crime, by subreptitiously obscuring it.
Definition. Subreption: (perjurious) concealment of evidence to procure an advantage.

Politicians and some others have deserted the standards of truth, knowledge, justice and liberty to become the definite foes of the great mass of the People. There is nothing new in this behaviour. It has occurred repeatedly throughout history when régimes became perverted into serving the ambitions of criminal despots. As ever, it is the duty of the people to extirpate tyranny: better to nip it in its mid-stages now, before its growth overwhelms and poisons the last vestiges of democratic freedom.

To begin with, see the explanations in my previous two postings on page 6 of this thread (amongst the others by the Democracy Defined Campaign); and then take the time to watch the serious documentary called Money Masters which I have put below. This evidence needs to be learned carefully, and for everyone to circulate it as widely as possible to family and friends, to teachers and schools secondary and adult, to colleagues at work and to individuals in the media. Tell them all to pass the knowledge on.

The crimes of the usurious money-lenders embroil us all in fatal world events including political assassinations, extortionate personal and national endebtment; intentional economic depressions, armed conflicts, and wars ongoing.

Yours sincerely,
Kenn d'Oudney. Director.

THE MONEY MASTERS documentary video is by Bill Still & Patrick S. J. Carmack, BBA, JD, who practised corporate law and is a former Administrative Law Judge for the Corporation Commission of the State of Oklahoma; Member of the Bar of the U.S. Supreme Court.
This documentary video (shown on U.S. PBS national educational T.V.) is endorsed by academics and economists, including Economics' Nobel laureate Professor Milton Friedman, Official Economics Adviser to the Reagan administration.

Part One

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Part Two:

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tito · 30-08-2007, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyG

Keeping other currencies is one thing, buying 'Liberty Dollars' is no different than buying Pokemon! Currency it ain't and never will be.

It's odd, how in the middle of this crisis the USD has bounced back by 4% after hitting its lows a couple of weeks ago...

Why? It is redeemable in gold and silver. It is more of a currency than the US dollar or the sterling pound.

democracydefinedcampaign · 05-09-2007, 11:05 PM

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Here is another explicative video about the crimes of those behind the Federal Reserve private banking system, the Bank of England, etc. It makes some useful additional points, but does not replace the wider information of the MONEY MASTERS video (accessed from our previous post).

Note: The info on the Federal Reserve in this video is worth knowing. However, we would point out that the authors of the script accompanying this video take a profoundly mistaken approach when they say, "What does (sic) Christianity, 9-11 and The Federal Reserve have in common?" Whether by design or by ignorance of the teachings of Christ, the commentators' remarks on this subject are invidious and wide of the mark.

The well-known facts and events confirm that Jesus Christ upheld the Judaic tenet that Usury (moneylending-at-interest) is a grave crime. Usurers are recognised as iniquitous criminal apostate defectors by Judaism, Christianity and Islam; and by all just, cerebral jurisdictions, bar none. To begin to solve so many of the problems which beset our world, which have usury and the fraudulent practice of 'fractional reserve lending' as their root cause, these pernicious practices must once again be rigorously criminalised.

Like many another person who has not read the New Testament witness accounts, the writers of the video's script confuse the real teachings of Christ, i.e. Christianity, with the fallibilities of the Church, which is the institutionalisation of 'religion', about which Jesus had deep misgivings, and gave the strongest warnings. Contrary to the remark from the video, Christ set the example for all. He physically risked his person to confront the Usurers, the money-changers themselves in the Temple courtyard. He drove them out and upturned their tables.

Otherwise, in regard to the Illegality of the Status Quo, treacherous corrupt politicians and the central banks, the video makes sensible observations...

Yours sincerely,
Kenn d'Oudney. Director.

Google Video

John Welch · 06-09-2007, 05:46 AM

The Christian connection is interesting. Is it your purpose to form a theocracy without politicians?

democracydefinedcampaign · 07-09-2007, 03:36 PM

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A theocracy is full of politicians ! It is the 'religious' equivalent of the atheist totalitarian one-party state. Fulfilling definition of totalitarianism, theocratic politicians allow no opposition to the centralisation of power and the dictates from the supreme council (soviet). If you read our posts you should be able to realise that our objectives are an utter contrast to that.

Complete explication of Democracy Defined cannot be contained here. That requires perusals of the organisation's Campaign Philosophy webpages, essays and pamphlets, which proffer much information.
~

Over time, an excruciating tyranny has been forming around us. Much has been done by the owned and controlled mass media and state education system to obscure this malignant, de facto criminal, growth. However, the paramount remedy is available for immediate rectification and reversal of the deepening degeneration of the West into anti-democratic methods and objectives.

It is easy to understand why the civilised state is only brought into being by the adoption and implementation of Trial by Jury for all causes (lawsuits) civil, criminal and fiscal.

Trial by Jury bestows Sovereign Supreme Power on the indiscriminately chosen adult citizen as juror. This Power is embodied in the Citizen-Juror’s Duty in Trial by Jury: to judge the justice of every act of law enforcement, and to render the Not Guilty Verdict whenever conviction or punishment of the accused would be unfair, according to the juror’s conscience.

Consider U.S. Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone on the Juror’s Duty, as follows:

"If a juror feels that the statute involved in any criminal offence is unfair, or that it infringes upon the defendant’s natural God-given unalienable or Constitutional rights, then it is his duty to affirm that the offending statute is really no law at all and that the violation of it is no crime at all, for no one is bound to obey an unjust law.

"That juror must vote Not Guilty regardless of the pressures or abuses that may be heaped on him by any or all members of the jury with whom he may in good conscience disagree. He is voting on the justice of the law according to his own conscience and convictions and not someone else’s. The law itself is on trial quite as much as the case which is to be decided."
U.S. Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone, 1941-1946.
(Emphases added.)

The roots of barbarism are founded in the denial of the authentic Trial by Jury Justice System. Conversely, by definition and in practice, civilisation and democracy, sine qua non ['without which not'], are founded on the pan-European common law Trial by Jury defined and prescribed by Magna Carta, the Great Charter of English liberties, and the other inalienable rightful protections installed by that unsurpassed Constitution. (For details, see freely downloadable Magna Carta essay, URL below.) These protections were also recognised and adopted by the Founding Fathers within the U.S. Constitution.

Definitions. A constitution is a code of customs and law installed by the people of a nation (as distinct from by the government) to guide and control government. The articles of a constitution may only be amended by the active participation of the great mass of the people. (This is distinct from a statute which may be framed, enacted and repealed by government.)
A government is comprised of the executive, legislature and the judiciary.

WE THE PEOPLE… (demos; the people)
The Legal Criteria of Constitutional Democracy.

A nation state governs by its Justice System. The power to punish carries with it ALL power. If at any time, albeit for an instant, the Supreme Power is removed from or ceded by the people, and the power is acquired by, or delegated to, a group consisting of LESS than all the People, then the democratic state has ceased to exist: an undemocratic government, that is, a despotism, has assumed its place.

It was explicitly to counteract arbitrary, corrupt tyrannical government that the protections of Magna Carta installed the people’s "law of the land," the criteria of constitutional democracy, "in perpetuity" and "for ever." See Preamble & Article 63.

The criteria have been the foundation of compassionate democratic civilisation through the tribulations of a long varied history. As has repeatedly occurred in the past, instead of upholding them, present-day criminal ‘politicians’ now intend their destruction.

These democratic protections are as follows:

(i) the citizen’s right to a Trial by a Jury of pares (or peers, i.e. Latin for social-equals; not trial by government or its employees);
(ii) the right and duty of the Juror to judge on the justice of the law and its enforcement in finding the Verdict in Trial by Jury (i.e. Jury Nullification);
(iii) freedom from arbitrary arrest (i.e. without probable cause);
(iv) freedom from arbitrary detention (later known as Habeas Corpus);
(v) equality before the law.

By pursuing Restoration of the Constitutional Common Law Trial by Jury Justice System, democracy, liberty and justice are the aim: success may or may not be achieved immediately; but mankind ultimately rejects tyranny when serving it becomes intolerable. The question is whether enough people rally to the banner of Justice and Liberty to achieve Restoration before the terror and tyranny reach stages which only extreme bloodletting will resolve.

Trial by Jury is the basis of our Western, and all lawful, Constitutions, and remains the only (peaceful) means known to mankind of protecting the innocent citizenry from vexatious or brutal intrusion by government and its employees.

All other systems (enforcement-by-government; trial-by-judge, etc.) are proven one-sided, unjust and inherently illegal. This is because judges are not responsible to the people. As servants of government, judges are subject to the legislature by impeachment and for careers and salaries. Judges (as opposed to jurors) are beholden to enforce governments' laws regardless of their injustice, bias, invalidity or unfounded perjurious nature. That is why Trial BY JURY was constitutionally emplaced in perpetuity.

Today, the genuine Trial by Jury is precluded by the illegal interventions of judges and the contraventions of politicians. Jurors are forbidden from judging on the justice or otherwise of the law and its enforcement. Jurors are only permitted to judge those 'facts' predetermined for presentation by judges, who thereby arrange the outcome (verdict).

For anyone to work within our corrupted system of government abets activities which are illegal and immoral measured by all the precepts of civilised mankind.

Today, with neither conscience nor the dutiful due care (nominally) required of all judges in all cases, to examine the overwhelming, extant expert exonerative evidence, they enforce every single one of the uncountably numerous statutes of government-corporate villainy: laws usurious and fraudulent, corruptly money-motivated, unfounded, perjurious, partial, crime-producing (hence, inherently illegal), inequitable, and unconstitutional.

Today, politicians and judges judicably* participate in and create tyranny most cruel, and preside over the usurpation of the English (cf. British) Constitution and the utter destruction of the people's common law Trial by Jury Justice System.
* Definition. judicable, that which may be tried by jury in a court of law.

Yours sincerely,
Kenn d'Oudney. Director.

P.S. From Astra d'Oudney.

With new section on "The Constitutional Qualities of Supremacy and Permanence Embodied in Magna Carta." Copyright owner's permission granted for downloading essay and circulation intact and complete.

Contents of this essay have received the following endorsements:

Thanks for your excellent work on Magna Carta. What a masterly exposition.
John Gouriet, Chairman
Defenders of the Realm.
Organiser, the Battle for Britain Campaign supported by The Duke of Wellington, Edward Fox, OBE and Frederick Forsyth, CBE.

Kenn, Your rebuttal is masterly.
Robin Tilbrook, Chairman
English Democrat Party

Thanks, Kenn. I've circulated this to various contacts over here.
Kind regards,
Simon Richards
Campaign Director
The Freedom Association
Founded by the Viscount de L’Isle, VC, KG, PC; Ross McWhirter and
Norris McWhirter, CBE.

Click here to download Magna Carta Essay
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democracydefinedcampaign Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London/ France. Posts: 53	Who Controls Our Money Supply? Who Are the Money Masters? The Democracy Defined Campaign Philosophy is endorsed by academics, attorneys, doctors (of jurisprudence, medicine, philosophy, etc.), and judges (U.S. & U.K.). Greetings to Fellow Forum Readers ! THE CRIMES OF USURY AND FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING. The paramount destructive results to Western civilisation of Usury and Fractional Reserve Lending (see our previous posts for explanation) are engulfing every citizen and re-writing the statute book to exclude every constitutional and democratic concept of fairness, civilisation, justice and liberty. As described by our previous posts and in the Money Masters video documentary, since the Second World War, every legislative programme and measure adverse to the interests of the British population has been introduced at the command of the money masters. Surely, the totalitarian agenda and behind the scenes machinations of the money masters are not above the intellectual grasp of the majority ? We have made proposals as to how to relegitimise the banking and investment system. The contributions on this thread have wandered off on to interesting but relatively innocuous economic side-issues irrelevant to the Illegality of the Status Quo. Have participants on this forum any additional serious suggestions of valid actions and programmes by which to block the money masters; retrieve the national wealth; expunge the national 'debt'; preserve our democracy, liberty and justice; and pass due and appropriate deterrent retribution on these Usurers and those who have aided and abetted their activities ? Yours sincerely, Joanna d'Oudney. Director. __________________ The Home Page of The not-for-profit Educational Campaign for RESTORATION and UNIVERSAL ADOPTION of CONSTITUTIONAL COMMON LAW TRIAL BY JURY. http://www.democracydefined.org/ The Democracy Defined Campaign Philosophy is endorsed by academics, attorneys, doctors (of jurisprudence, medicine, philosophy, etc.) and judges (U.S. & U.K.). Last edited by democracydefinedcampaign; 17-08-2007 at 03:44 PM.

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democracydefinedcampaign Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London/ France. Posts: 53	Restoration of Justice and Liberty. The Democracy Defined Campaign Philosophy is endorsed by academics, attorneys, doctors (of jurisprudence, medicine, philosophy, etc.), and judges (U.S. & U.K.). Greetings to Fellow Forum Readers ! A theocracy is full of politicians ! It is the 'religious' equivalent of the atheist totalitarian one-party state. Fulfilling definition of totalitarianism, theocratic politicians allow no opposition to the centralisation of power and the dictates from the supreme council (soviet). If you read our posts you should be able to realise that our objectives are an utter contrast to that. Complete explication of Democracy Defined cannot be contained here. That requires perusals of the organisation's Campaign Philosophy webpages, essays and pamphlets, which proffer much information. ~ Over time, an excruciating tyranny has been forming around us. Much has been done by the owned and controlled mass media and state education system to obscure this malignant, de facto criminal, growth. However, the paramount remedy is available for immediate rectification and reversal of the deepening degeneration of the West into anti-democratic methods and objectives. It is easy to understand why the civilised state is only brought into being by the adoption and implementation of Trial by Jury for all causes (lawsuits) civil, criminal and fiscal. Trial by Jury bestows Sovereign Supreme Power on the indiscriminately chosen adult citizen as juror. This Power is embodied in the Citizen-Juror’s Duty in Trial by Jury: *to judge the justice of every act of law enforcement, and to render the Not Guilty Verdict whenever conviction or punishment of the accused would be unfair, according to the juror’s conscience.* Consider U.S. Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone on the Juror’s Duty, as follows: "If a juror feels that the statute involved in any criminal offence is unfair, or that it infringes upon the defendant’s natural God-given unalienable or Constitutional rights, then it is his duty to affirm that the offending statute is really no law at all and that the violation of it is no crime at all, for no one is bound to obey an unjust law. "That juror must vote Not Guilty regardless of the pressures or abuses that may be heaped on him by any or all members of the jury with whom he may in good conscience disagree. He is voting on the justice of the law according to his own conscience and convictions and not someone else’s. The law itself is on trial quite as much as the case which is to be decided." U.S. Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone, 1941-1946. (Emphases added.) The roots of barbarism are founded in the denial of the authentic Trial by Jury Justice System. Conversely, by definition and in practice, civilisation and democracy, sine qua non ['without which not'], are founded on the pan-European common law Trial by Jury defined and prescribed by Magna Carta, the Great Charter of English liberties, and the other inalienable rightful protections installed by that unsurpassed Constitution. (For details, see freely downloadable Magna Carta essay, URL below.) These protections were also recognised and adopted by the Founding Fathers within the U.S. Constitution. Definitions. A constitution is a code of customs and law installed by the people of a nation (as distinct from by the government) to guide and control government. The articles of a constitution may only be amended by the active participation of the great mass of the people. (This is distinct from a statute which may be framed, enacted and repealed by government.) A government is comprised of the executive, legislature and the judiciary. WE THE PEOPLE… (demos; the people) The Legal Criteria of Constitutional Democracy. A nation state governs by its Justice System. The power to punish carries with it ALL power. If at any time, albeit for an instant, the Supreme Power is removed from or ceded by the people, and the power is acquired by, or delegated to, a group consisting of LESS than all the People, then the democratic state has ceased to exist: an undemocratic government, that is, a despotism, has assumed its place. It was explicitly to counteract arbitrary, corrupt tyrannical government that the protections of Magna Carta installed the people’s "law of the land," the criteria of constitutional democracy, "in perpetuity" and "for ever." See Preamble & Article 63. The criteria have been the foundation of compassionate democratic civilisation through the tribulations of a long varied history. As has repeatedly occurred in the past, instead of upholding them, present-day criminal ‘politicians’ now intend their destruction. These democratic protections are as follows: (i) the citizen’s right to a Trial by a Jury of pares (or peers, i.e. Latin for social-equals; not trial by government or its employees); (ii) the right and duty of the Juror to judge on the justice of the law and its enforcement in finding the Verdict in Trial by Jury (i.e. Jury Nullification); (iii) freedom from arbitrary arrest (i.e. without probable cause); (iv) freedom from arbitrary detention (later known as Habeas Corpus); (v) equality before the law. By pursuing Restoration of the Constitutional Common Law Trial by Jury Justice System, democracy, liberty and justice are the aim: success may or may not be achieved immediately; but mankind ultimately rejects tyranny when serving it becomes intolerable. The question is whether enough people rally to the banner of Justice and Liberty to achieve Restoration before the terror and tyranny reach stages which only extreme bloodletting will resolve. Trial by Jury is the basis of our Western, and all lawful, Constitutions, and remains the only (peaceful) means known to mankind of protecting the innocent citizenry from vexatious or brutal intrusion by government and its employees. All other systems (enforcement-by-government; trial-by-judge, etc.) are proven one-sided, unjust and inherently illegal. This is because judges are not responsible to the people. As servants of government, judges are subject to the legislature by impeachment and for careers and salaries. Judges (as opposed to jurors) are beholden to enforce governments' laws regardless of their injustice, bias, invalidity or unfounded perjurious nature. That is why Trial BY JURY was constitutionally emplaced in perpetuity. Today, the genuine Trial by Jury is precluded by the illegal interventions of judges and the contraventions of politicians. Jurors are forbidden from judging on the justice or otherwise of the law and its enforcement. Jurors are only permitted to judge those 'facts' predetermined for presentation by judges, who thereby arrange the outcome (verdict). For anyone to work within our corrupted system of government *abets* activities which are illegal and immoral measured by all the precepts of civilised mankind. Today, with neither conscience nor the dutiful due care (nominally) required of all judges in all cases, to examine the overwhelming, extant expert exonerative evidence, they enforce every single one of the uncountably numerous statutes of government-corporate villainy: laws usurious and fraudulent, corruptly money-motivated, unfounded, perjurious, partial, crime-producing (hence, inherently illegal), inequitable, and unconstitutional. Today, politicians and judges judicably* participate in and create tyranny most cruel, and preside over the usurpation of the English (cf. British) Constitution and the utter destruction of the people's common law Trial by Jury Justice System. * Definition. judicable, that which may be tried by jury in a court of law. Yours sincerely, Kenn d'Oudney. Director. P.S. From Astra d'Oudney. With new section on "The Constitutional Qualities of Supremacy and Permanence Embodied in Magna Carta." Copyright owner's permission granted for downloading essay and circulation intact and complete. Contents of this essay have received the following endorsements: Thanks for your excellent work on Magna Carta. What a masterly exposition. John Gouriet, Chairman Defenders of the Realm. Organiser, the Battle for Britain Campaign supported by The Duke of Wellington, Edward Fox, OBE and Frederick Forsyth, CBE. Kenn, Your rebuttal is masterly. Robin Tilbrook, Chairman English Democrat Party Thanks, Kenn. I've circulated this to various contacts over here. Kind regards, Simon Richards Campaign Director The Freedom Association Founded by the Viscount de L’Isle, VC, KG, PC; Ross McWhirter and Norris McWhirter, CBE. Click here to download Magna Carta Essay with new section ]http://www.democracydefined.org/EIS1...nnihilated.pdf __________________ The Home Page of The not-for-profit Educational Campaign for RESTORATION and UNIVERSAL ADOPTION of CONSTITUTIONAL COMMON LAW TRIAL BY JURY. http://www.democracydefined.org/ The Democracy Defined Campaign Philosophy is endorsed by academics, attorneys, doctors (of jurisprudence, medicine, philosophy, etc.) and judges (U.S. & U.K.).

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25-08-2007, 08:07 AM	#65 (permalink)
John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	"Surely, the totalitarian agenda and behind the scenes machinations of the money masters are not above the intellectual grasp of the majority ?" Now come on you people! Agree with this campaign! What's wrong with the lot of you?

06-09-2007, 05:46 AM	#69 (permalink)
John Welch Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	The Christian connection is interesting. Is it your purpose to form a theocracy without politicians?