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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6282389.stm
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She's widely disliked in large parts of the USA outside New York.

Unlike former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani who is thinking of standing for the Republican Party against Clinton or whoever else the Democrats put up.

mkpdavies

Clinton will win, I would bet Wagon Wheels on it.

Not that it makes much odds, she'll just do as she is told.

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The problem she's got now is that the Democrats have won power over a wide area of internal affairs (in the mid-term elections) and the Republicans will use any opportunity they can to criticise the Democrats and use it against them at the next American Presidential Election.

Some say that the Democrats have peaked too soon and that after several years of them running domestic affairs in the USA, key voters will get fed up with them and return to the Republican fold.

I'm pretty sure it will be another close race when the next American Presidential election is held. Much depends on who the Republicans pick as their candidate and Vice-Candidate.

It's not impossible to imagine the Republicans selecting a female candidate - something which would upset Hilary Clinton's plans to be the only female in the contest.

By the way, Hilary Clinton backed the 'war' in Iraq - something which is being used against her by others in her own party who can't stand her and want to be Democrat candidate next time instead of her.

She is also not liked by many Roman Catholics (an unpopularity I can perfectly understand) and the Roman Catholic vote in America is growing and becoming (thanks partly to President George W. Bush) more Republican-Party friendly .

mkpdavies

She'll win because

a) People have golden memories of Bill, thanks to Bush being so bad.
b) Fatigue of a Republican (puppet A), just like we have here.
c) She is a woman. The USA are ripe for it. It's always fairly close, but I think this one will be a landslide.

Giuliani would have had a chance if the "War On Terror" hadn't have been such a farce, including Iraq.

Hillary for a few years, floundering around, helping implement the North American Union, followed by Arnie in 2012, when they have sorted the rules out for him.

God help us.

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I can't understand why the Bush administration didn't make it possible for Arnie to stand in 2008 (i.e. by a law change allowing those born outside the USA such as Arnie to contest a Presidential election).

The Democrats are not going to be keen on changing the law on this with Arnie 'waiting in the wings'.

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To be fair Hilary Clinton has become a major political figure in her own right. She ispopular with women, African-Americans, and other core groups in the Democratic Party, and she isa great fund-raiser and speaker.
She also has the support of many independents and Republicans in New York, winning a re-election last year by a 30 per cent point margin and has built bipartisan ties.
Her husband Bill is (as mentioned earlier by MK) still adored in the USA too.

What makes the race exciting is the competition she'll face by Barack Obama of Illinois, as well as former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, the 2004 vice presidential nominee; An eighth, Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, is expected to declare on Sunday that he is forming an exploratory committee as well. New Mexico's Bill Richardson is also expected to stand and, depsite his name, is actually hispanic.

The Republican's will most likely opt for New York's Rudy Giuliani or Arizona's John McCain.

The USA could potentially end up with a female, black or Hispanic 'Commander-in-Chief'.

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The USA could just as easily 'end up' (your words '22andUK') with another Republican President .

They were predicting a Democrat victory on the night of the last American Presidential election right up to the moment the Democrat candidate conceded he had lost - after defeat had been staring him in the face for hours.

Being popular (if he is popular) in America didn't result in the voters of the USA taking the advice of 'Bill' Clinton to vote Kerry (the Democrat candidate last time who failed to win). Despite the desperate pleas of 'Bill' Clinton for people to vote for Kerry - President George W. Bush got back in on the biggest vote for any American Presidential candidate ever 8) (in terms of actual votes in the ballot box).

If the voters didn't listen to Clinton's desperate pleas for them to vote Democrat then - why should they listen to him next time when there's even more new voters on the electoral rolls for the first time - too young to even remember or know who he is?

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Reporter Juliet Bremner just said on ITV 1 Television news at 11.07 pm "Many see her (Hilary Clinton) as a pushy liberal. She has the biggest pocket (i.e. the most money behind her on the Democrat side so far) but she can't really offer a fresh start."

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The reason that the law hasn't been changed is quite simple. Arnie has been heavily involved with alsorts of scandals and political nightmares that would seriously damage the credibility of a US Government. Some of these allegations are below:



Two black bodybuilders have come forward claiming that California Gov. Schwarzenegger has a history of making racist comments. Schwarzenegger has allegedly said ."If you gave these blacks a country to run, they would run it down the tubes."

Arnold openly supported Kurt Waldheim, Former UN chief and a former Austrian politician who participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Schwarzenegger's name remained on Waldheim's campaign posters, even after allegations of Waldheim's war crimes were brought to light. Waldheim was even invited to Arnold's wedding.

His father was a member of the Austrian Nazi Party who volunteered for the infamous SA and became a ranking officer. In the early '90s, Spy Magazine printed his father's Nazi Party membership in their magazine.

After several public claims of racism were made against him that could effect his career and long-term political chances, Schwarzenegger donated substantial sums to the Simon Weisenthal Center in Los Angeles and commissioned an "audit" of his father's nazi past, essentially buying off potential criticism. He never distanced himself from Kurt Waldheim, however -- quite the opposite. He made a statement to friends , saying "My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does too, and so thank you, Kurt."

March 1992 Spy Magazine article mentions a story confirmed by "a businessman and longtime friend of Schwarzenegger's" -- that in the '70s Arnold "enjoyed playing and giving away records of Hitler's speeches."

Schwarzenegger reportedly said on-camera during the filming of "Pumping Iron" that he "admired" Hitler. The footage was not used in the final version of the movie.

He has also talked of dreaming of being a dictator - " I didn't think about money. I thought about the fame, about just being the greatest. I was dreaming about being some dictator of a country or some savior like Jesus . . ."


ENRON CONNECTION

On May 26, 2001 Arnold met with former Enron CEO Kenneth Lay , where Lay sought support for his solution to the California energy crisis, opposing price caps on electricity and federal assistance. The Bush administration supported Lay's solution and stood by while Enron defrauded Californians out of billions . As we have seen, many officials linked with the Bush Administration have their dirty prints all over Enron, it seems Arnold does too .