Free Trade - no thanks!

eublues · 03-10-2006, 06:36 PM

Of course the French are really cunning by practising "economic patriotism", while pretending to support the single market.

Most French people will always go for a French product if at all possible, and that has kept their car industry much stronger than it deserves to be.

Most British people prefer a foreign product.

mkpdavies · 03-10-2006, 06:40 PM

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Most British people prefer a foreign product.

Prefer a cheaper product you mean.

eublues · 03-10-2006, 07:03 PM

Partly that, but also it's also a snob thing that got started with cars in the 60s.

mkpdavies · 03-10-2006, 07:05 PM

It makes me laugh/cry that we have loads of companies that make cars here now, but none of them really British.

Mind there is no such thing as a nationaly owned car really. Shareholders come from around the world.

eublues · 03-10-2006, 07:27 PM

If we support "independence" there is something less than fully satisfactory about this.

A rural dweller who merrily rips out the old wood-burner when cheap gas arrives might live to regret that action - in fact would probably be regretting it this winter.

This-England · 03-10-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

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OK, if its own car makers are hopeless

Not a good advert for protectionism. No one buys American cars because of this. So the American car industry is limited and poor and the people of America get a c*** choice.

Hence American car companies are now begining to look very sick.

It's much better than the UK car industry considering we now havnt got one.

This-England · 03-10-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

What makes it worse in America, is they are shipping all their production down to cheaper Mexico. So they get all of the c*** parts of protectionsim and all of the c*** parts of free trade too.

Lose lose.

Well that shows the need for the USA to leave NAFTA.

This-England · 03-10-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eublues

Of course the French are really cunning by practising "economic patriotism", while pretending to support the single market.

Most French people will always go for a French product if at all possible, and that has kept their car industry much stronger than it deserves to be.

Most British people prefer a foreign product.

We dont have much choice but to buy foreign now.
One of the big problems is Public bodys wont buy British cars as its seen as Nationalistic.
The Police and NHS for example.

eublues · 03-10-2006, 11:39 PM

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Public bodys wont buy British cars as its seen as Nationalistic.
The Police and NHS for example.

Probably that, but also British hyper-zealous adherence to EU driven "compulsory competitive tendering" no doubt involved.

mkpdavies · 04-10-2006, 07:36 AM

There are still cars made in Britain, just not owned by British companies.

In the era of the shareholder, I question whether there is such as thing as a national company. I own shares in companies around the world, including Britain.

That's globalisation for you.

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03-10-2006, 06:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,102	Of course the French are really cunning by practising "economic patriotism", while pretending to support the single market. Most French people will always go for a French product if at all possible, and that has kept their car industry much stronger than it deserves to be. Most British people prefer a foreign product.

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eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,102	Partly that, but also it's also a snob thing that got started with cars in the 60s.

03-10-2006, 07:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,102	If we support "independence" there is something less than fully satisfactory about this. A rural dweller who merrily rips out the old wood-burner when cheap gas arrives might live to regret that action - in fact would probably be regretting it this winter.