blondy

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-38198,00.html


http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011323.php


That can be the only conclusion if you believe that this expression:

and this one:

Are contradictory and mutually exclusive.

The idea is that a return to the ORIGINAL Islam means jihad.

andypandy

Are you Adrian Wainer under another name? It seems that the only issues you are prepared to talk about on a BRITISH independence and democracy site are, like Adrian, about Muslims. I cannot understand, when the moderators on this site have a particular obsession with hunting down BNP trolls or anyone that uses "racist language", alows these topics to reach the levels of hysteria that they do.

They wouldn't allow it if the words "Islam", or "muslim" were replaced by the words "zionist" or "jew", why do they tolerate such intesive passions regarding muslims? (especially when UKIP has HAD muslim candidates at the elections, has it not?).

ukpatriot

The obsessive hatred of Islam and Muslims shown by a handful of posters is worrying. Is it any wonder that some Muslims feel they are under attack? People like Blondy and Adrian should stop relying on hate sites such as jihadwatch and try to see things from a Muslim perspective, not solely from American and Zionist viewpoints.

blondy

Before we go any further let me ask all of you who defend Islam...

Do you admit that the Koran instructs followers to spread Islam to every corner of the world by whatever means are necessary?

And secondly, who do you bear allegiance to? The government and flag of your nation or the Koran and Allah?

andypandy

This is not a question of defending islam, I for one, ask how can a site such as this, that claims to support UKIP, tolerate continual anti-muslim or even anti-religious fevour under the vague description of topic headings? Even the UKIP moderators that run this site must understand where I am coming from on this subject.. I would like to know why they are so silent on this issue, and why they have allowed it to become so prominent?

I personally doubt the place for Islam within a nominal christian culture that Britain otherwise belongs to, but I will not go to the lengths that some are to brainwash others into that viewpoint.

Nevermind Blondy, the BNP would welcome your opinions, but then I can't say that can I, because I am a BNP troll it seems. I would be equally worried if posters such as yourself took a fanatical christian line and insisted that all things biblical were incorporated into commonlaw.

Are you Adrian Wainer?

ukpatriot

Not defending Islam, just requesting you to be more balanced. Every religion urges its followers to spread the word to all corners of the world. Islam is no different. It's also claimed to be peace-loving, just as Christianity claims to be.

If you want to support the alcoholic moron in the White House and hold the star spangled banner to your chest each day that's fine. You go ahead. Americans are incredibly naive anyway, why else would you have elected a moron twice to be your president?

I don't support the deployment of UK forces in Iraq; we shouldn't be there. Since the invasion over 100, 000 Iraqis have died, a terrible loss, and Iraq is in flames thanks to you Yankee idiots. Yet another catastrophe arising out of US meddling in affairs which don't concern it.

You Americans want to learn a bit more before you sound off on internet boards about things you don't understand. I'm with the French as far as you lot are concerned.

blondy

When someone asks what can be done to save the UK, I would answer this way.

Ask those representing points of view such as Andy Pandy does, to discuss the facts and not resort to appeals for political correctness to put an end to the discussion.

PC is why there are so many Muslims in Britain who have no particular interest in perpetuating the current British government or way of life.

There are millions and millions of beautiful and warm and smart and responsible and friendly Muslims in this world.

But the Koran is not a moderate book and Islam is not a moderate religion.

And the fact is that by preventing the discussion of the TRUTH about Islam we allow Islam to creep onward like ivy on a brick wall. And eventually the ivy will cause the wall to dissolve.

That is why a third of the Muslims in the UK can't be trusted to want to support the government.

I don't speak out of hatred. I speak to try to force Muslims to talk about the shortcomings of the Koran so that a new path might be found where we can all get along.

Clearly the path that Britain's Muslims are on is going to lead to drastic measures some day.

blondy

Is Islam Above Criticism?

By

Al-Maqdesi & Solomon

http://answering-islam.org.uk/NonMus..._criticism.htm

ukpatriot

You're American so what gives you any authority to talk about people in Britain? I'll tell you; ****** all.

Since you want to try to 'force' Muslims to talk about the shortcomings of the Koran, you should be prepared to talk about the 'shortcomings' of the US regime, US 'culture', the US media, and US bully-boy tactics against countries such as Cuba and the Latin American states.

Whiule we're talking about 'shortcomings', let's chat about the 'shortcomings' of partitioning Palestine and the incomers ejecting half a million Palestinians from their homes and land in 1948 to make way for a load of European, Russian and American settlers shall we? And let's talk about the rights these displaced Palestinians possess under the Israeli regime? While we're at it let's talk about the murder of British servicemen by Jewish zealots in Palestine in the 1940s.

There are a few 'shortcomings' to discuss, which should add balance to your Americo- and Israel-centric opinions, borne as they are out of a highly Zionist-biased media.

blondy

Actually, that's EXACTLY what a chat forum like this is all about.

The only thing different is that instead of you and your mates going on and on about how terrible the US is and how bad we are messing up whatever it is you'd have the readers believe we're messing up, we are now being fair and talking about Islam.

After all, it's not just a religion, it's a political and governmental system, too!

And you use the word Zionist as if it was an epithet!

When we speak of freedom for Brits it is the same way we'd speak of freedom for our distant cousins. We are family. And if you oppose Britain's remaining a free people and government and society then you aren't a member of the family. You aren't even a parasite.

You are a wolf in sheep's clothing.

If my British kin-folk can't or won't say so, then it is up to those of us who still may speak freely, to call you on your seemingly unstoppable roll across Europe.

It seems so bad in England that you can't even speak the truth about what is happening to you, there.

It's like you are drowning but you aren't allowed to disturb the water as you go down for the count!

The plans you may have to conquer the world will be stopped and you had better get used to it.

And I'm a pacifist compared to my friends!

And the portion of your comments that are highlighted in bold, would you please substantiate your claims with links?

Thanks.