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Old 23-06-2006, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default UK wasting its unique relationship with India

The obsession of europhiles with the EU is costing the UK friends and expanding economic links elsewhere:

BBC 1 Television, Ceefax, (analogue page 121), 22.6.2006 at 09.53 am:

The UK is wasting its “unique relationship” with India and falling behind other nations in the race to invest in the country, says a report.

The report from MP’s in the Trade and Industry Committee said UK firms have a limited understanding of the growing Indian economy.

Many see India as a source of cheap labour rather than an emerging market.

The MP’s said the higher education, manufacturing and automative industries offered great investment opportunities.
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The obsession of europhiles with the EU is costing the UK friends and expanding economic links elsewhere:

BBC 1 Television, Ceefax, (analogue page 121), 22.6.2006 at 09.53 am:

The UK is wasting its “unique relationship” with India and falling behind other nations in the race to invest in the country, says a report.
Agreed, Germany and France are finished! we should be looking for allies in Europe like e.g. Denmark and deepening our involvement with India.

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The obsession of europhiles with the EU is costing the UK friends and expanding economic links elsewhere:

BBC 1 Television, Ceefax, (analogue page 121), 22.6.2006 at 09.53 am:

The UK is wasting its “unique relationship” with India and falling behind other nations in the race to invest in the country, says a report.
Agreed, Germany and France are finished! we should be looking for allies in Europe like e.g. Denmark and deepening our involvement with India.

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Like you Adrian, I support closer UK relations with Denmark and India. And, of course, non-EU Switzerland too . I also think relations with pro-English Chile and with Mexico are important for the UK as well. I've read that Mexicans are a nationality that like visiting England more than most nationalities in the world (according to some opinion poll/survey). Sorry Mexico has just left the World Cup competition.
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Viva Mexico! Cojones of Steel!

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I've read that Mexicans are a nationality that like visiting England more than most nationalities in the world (according to some opinion poll/survey). Sorry Mexico has just left the World Cup competition.
Cojones Anyone! I happened to be a passenger on a Mexicana Boeing 727 that had a major engine failure during take off, frankly I think if the pilots from the airlines of several other countrys had being flying it, I would not be around here to be talking about it!

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I also think relations with pro-English Chile and with Mexico are important for the UK as well.
Exactly, if it was not for support from the Chilean Air Force it is very likely the War to retake the Falklands would have gone the other way and do not forget Brazil and the support they gave the UK when the Vulcan bombing mission against Port Stanley airfield had to divert to Brazil!

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Default General Pinochet - a good friend of the UK

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Exactly, if it was not for support from the Chilean Air Force it is very likely the War to retake the Falklands would have gone the other way and do not forget Brazil and the support they gave the UK when the Vulcan bombing mission against Port Stanley airfield had to divert to Brazil!

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Yes, Chile is a good ally. How disgraceful that the idiot Straw detained Chilean General Pinochet who had been such a good friend to the UK. Typical Liebour Party.

As for Brazil, the only thing I would say is that Brazil is - officially - committed to supporting Argentina's claim on the Falklands. That is actually (sadly) the position of most South American nations in the world of diplomacy at least.
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The obsession of europhiles with the EU is costing the UK friends and expanding economic links elsewhere:

The UK is wasting its “unique relationship” with India and falling behind other nations in the race to invest in the country, says a report. The report from MP’s in the Trade and Industry Committee said UK firms have a limited understanding of the growing Indian economy.

Many see India as a source of cheap labour rather than an emerging market. The MP’s said the higher education, manufacturing and automative industries offered great investment opportunities.
I accept the basic truth of Britannist's Report, and that UK membership of the EU is contrary to UK trading relationships with most other states and especially those in the Commonwealth and the Far East etc.

The UK ecomomy is in such a mess, however, that it is not clear what further investment we could make in India. Both France and Germany still have very healthy manufacturing industries and their setting up plants in India would be sensible both to service the Indian market and to keep costs low to compete with China. Germany is, for example, the world's largest's exporter mainly because of its expertise in capital goods production.

The Uk's competitive edge is in services - mainly finance related - and the Indian market would be hard for us to make profits in. The local competition would be tough and the Indians are still very protectionist.

But when it comes to government waste, bureaucracy and elites being out of touch with ordinary people, I think the UK is still world class. The present UK government has much to teach other countries on how to waste a golden economic inheritance and really undermine what had been an orderly, fair and civilised society.
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Default Pinochet saved Chilean Democracy

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Yes, Chile is a good ally. How disgraceful that the idiot Straw detained Chilean General Pinochet who had been such a good friend to the UK. Typical Liebour Party.
I was in Chile whilst General Pinochet was runing the country and ordinary Chileans would tell me that they were fed up with him and they wanted democracy returned, if that sounds like a criticism of Pinochet on my part no it is not, you can be sure that nobody in Iraq would go around criticizeing Saddam Hussein when he was in power.

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Default Good times when General Pinochet ran Chile

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Yes, Chile is a good ally. How disgraceful that the idiot Straw detained Chilean General Pinochet who had been such a good friend to the UK. Typical Liebour Party.
I was in Chile whilst General Pinochet was running the country and ordinary Chileans would tell me that they were fed up with him and they wanted democracy returned, if that sounds like a criticism of Pinochet on my part no it is not, you can be sure that nobody in Iraq would go around criticising Saddam Hussein when he was in power.

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In the long run, alot of them will want him back.

Fortunately the last Chilean I met was a Pinochet supporter. I asked her for her view before giving mine and she said he did a good job. At least there are some decent and grateful people still around who can recognise quality when they see it.

I understand the new one in charge in Chile is a socialist. They're wasting their time. They won't get anywhere with her. These lefties are useless :x .
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.....it is not clear what further investment we could make in India....
We could do more with India militarily I think. They've been a good customer to us (the UK) for weaponry before. There is probably much more trade of food the two countries (India and UK) could engage in.

The USA is trying to get a foot in the door regarding military links with India. We shouldn't be elbowed out of the way by the 'johnny come lately' that is the USA (regarding trade/military links/cultural contacts with India).
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