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mkpdavies · 15-10-2005, 02:40 PM

What about motorcycle helmets, fancy dress masks, balaclavas, scarfs around the face etc etc?

Agent Provocateur · 15-10-2005, 02:57 PM

I dislike burkas as much as anyone, but I disagree with banning it, people should be allowed to wear whatever they want, no matter how repulsive.

mkpdavies · 15-10-2005, 03:08 PM

I agree in the street or whatever.

For job interviews etc though, they have to show some common sense.

UKIP MAN · 15-10-2005, 03:13 PM

does this mean that I

will have to remove mine :?

15-10-2005, 05:20 PM

We don't allow people to wear what they want in public, there are limits. You could get arrested for wearing too little.

There's a problem with gangs of youths wearing hoods so they are getting banned. The birqa would be banned the day after (if it should happen and it has happened in other countries) someone suicide bombed while wearing one. The question is, is it a security risk as the hood is deemed to be a crime risk?

I have always had the thought about whether the woman is being made to be under subjection when I see one wearing a burqa. That is what it symbolises to me. I think of the Taliban. That is the association.

A modified burqa like a Nun's habit may suffice, if the woman wants to wear it, there should be no question of her having to wear it in Britain. That begs the question though, doesn't it?

Christina

mkpdavies · 15-10-2005, 05:23 PM

Quote:

There's a problem with gangs of youths wearing hoods so they are getting banned

.

Are they? I've only seen private shopping centres ban them so far.

C_steam · 15-10-2005, 05:29 PM

A number of pubs in the town centre here have banned them also.

mkpdavies · 15-10-2005, 05:31 PM

I have no problem with that.

I'm sure they also stop people wearing helmets etc too.

SGK · 20-10-2005, 02:46 PM

The change in attitude in the Netherlands has been brought on largely by the stabbing to death in public and broad daylight of the film director (Van Gogh, I think his name was).
The Dutch prided themselves for a long time on being at the forefront of the open, multi-culti, everything-goes movement. I have quite a few friends in the Netherlands, of varying nationalities, and it is interesting to hear some of the views nowadays.
Some are questioning the drugs situation, more and more are unhappy with the EU and the euro is out of favour, and all are questioning the muslim situation (though not all are questioning immigration as such, but that could just be the people I know).
The Dutch 'no' vote was a bigger shock than the French vote, I think, especially to the Dutch themselves. I think it showed a few of them that there was an alternative and you could think about the direction the country was going in.
More power to em!

Cyburn · 20-10-2005, 03:01 PM

I say Ban the Burqa, since women who wear the burqa have no respect for UK values and want this country to be like Saudi Arabia

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15-10-2005, 02:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Agent Provocateur Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 101	I dislike burkas as much as anyone, but I disagree with banning it, people should be allowed to wear whatever they want, no matter how repulsive.

15-10-2005, 03:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
UKIP MAN Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,898	does this mean that I will have to remove mine :?

15-10-2005, 05:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	We don't allow people to wear what they want in public, there are limits. You could get arrested for wearing too little. There's a problem with gangs of youths wearing hoods so they are getting banned. The birqa would be banned the day after (if it should happen and it has happened in other countries) someone suicide bombed while wearing one. The question is, is it a security risk as the hood is deemed to be a crime risk? I have always had the thought about whether the woman is being made to be under subjection when I see one wearing a burqa. That is what it symbolises to me. I think of the Taliban. That is the association. A modified burqa like a Nun's habit may suffice, if the woman wants to wear it, there should be no question of her having to wear it in Britain. That begs the question though, doesn't it? Christina

15-10-2005, 05:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,709	A number of pubs in the town centre here have banned them also.

20-10-2005, 02:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	The change in attitude in the Netherlands has been brought on largely by the stabbing to death in public and broad daylight of the film director (Van Gogh, I think his name was). The Dutch prided themselves for a long time on being at the forefront of the open, multi-culti, everything-goes movement. I have quite a few friends in the Netherlands, of varying nationalities, and it is interesting to hear some of the views nowadays. Some are questioning the drugs situation, more and more are unhappy with the EU and the euro is out of favour, and all are questioning the muslim situation (though not all are questioning immigration as such, but that could just be the people I know). The Dutch 'no' vote was a bigger shock than the French vote, I think, especially to the Dutch themselves. I think it showed a few of them that there was an alternative and you could think about the direction the country was going in. More power to em!

20-10-2005, 03:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cyburn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kilburn, London Posts: 523	I say Ban the Burqa, since women who wear the burqa have no respect for UK values and want this country to be like Saudi Arabia