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    Was Enoch Powell wrong?

    After 9/11 nationalists increasingly shifted their emphasis away from ethnicity and towards Islam. Enoch Powell focused his attention on ethnic immigration and multiracialism but he said very little about Islam.

    A common explanation from the nationalist community as to why they failed to focus on Islam prior to 9/11 was because it was under their radar. Considering that Enoch Powell was a very intelligent and educated individual rather than a reactionary, then surely if Islam (as opposed to ethnic Muslims) posed a danger to Britain then he would have been more outspoken about it.

    Was Enoch Powell wrong?

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    Powell correctly foresaw the racial tensions and conflict from which we have since suffered, but the menace of Islamic fundamentalism here in Britain was then much less predictable.

    Nor could he have predicted the Internet, which now enables terrorists worldwide to enjoy instant contact with one another.

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    He was a heck of a lot more on the money than the liberal / left dullards who forsaw a land of milk and honey.

    He didn't predict where the tension would come from. As Blazing points out, there was no need to think that Islam would be the catalyst for the problems he foresaw. He spoke at a higher level of abstraction, relying on the truism that multiculturalism has not worked to the greater good ANYWHERE at any time.

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    He wanted to become the viceroy of India so he spent a lot of time studying the country by visiting it. He saw firsthand how fundamentalist heathen religions do not mix and cause violence and war. So yes he was completely aware of radical Muslims and what they are capable of.
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    it is the Common Purpose Left who have encouraged the growth of Islam in this country. They probably started before Common Purpose, when they were just the regular assortment of Trots, but I think that they knew the value of the religion of Islam and probably accurately predicted the friction adherents of the religion with the mainstream of the UK should there be enough of them.

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    He got close to mentioning Islam but was more general. Thirty four years before 7 July 2005, speaking of the "Black Power" clenched fist signs from athletes st the Olympic games, Enoch told the Southall Chamber of Commerce on 4th November 1971, “Yet it is more truly when he looks into the eyes of Asia that the Englishman comes face to face with those who will dispute with him possession of his native land.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    He saw firsthand how fundamentalist heathen religions do not mix and cause violence and war.
    Except Islam isn't a heathen religion and the 'pagan' ones (Hinduism and its offshoots) would not have engaged in violence had their territories not been encroached upon by Islam.
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    Question: Was Enoch Powell wrong?

    Question: Was Enoch Powell wrong?


    This clip might serve as a reasonable response:


    YouTube - Enoch Powell: Prophetic Fruition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazing Star View Post
    Nor could he have predicted the Internet, which now enables terrorists worldwide to enjoy instant contact with one another.
    .........AND racist fectards like you lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
    He wanted to become the viceroy of India so he spent a lot of time studying the country by visiting it. He saw firsthand how fundamentalist heathen religions do not mix and cause violence and war. So yes he was completely aware of radical Muslims and what they are capable of.

    Baron von Lotsov: From whom do you get your information? Having given India Independence in 1947, that was the end of Viceroyship. What evidence have you that Powell ever wished to be viceroy? Powell was stationed in India as a soldier during the war, and that was his encounter with India. You still fail to explain why Powell was willing to preside over a massive increase of immigration as Minister of Health under Macmillan. The fact of the matter was that he was a 'late comer' in making a contribution to the immigration debate. In the 1950s' he was more occupied in supporting the Labour MP. Sidney Silverman in seeking to end capital punishment. He was also tolerant of homosexuality; no doubt resulting from his admiration for his Cambridge tutor A.E. Houseman. On the other hand, perhaps he was one of your Cultural Marxists without even knowing it.

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