Thread: Was Enoch Powell wrong?

Originally Posted by Quetelet

.........AND racist fectards like you lot

What a smart thing to say.

I would rather be what you call a racist than a brainwashed enemy of the British.

Correct me if im wrong but wasn't plaid cymru nazi collaborators?

Off topic but ive noticed these so called leftist's who came to "tackle the Bnp" are really a poor excuse for humans.

Enoch Powell was right and the only reason the left hurl so much abuse at this guy is because their to stupid to know he was the last true English politician.

Originally Posted by andyrich66

His point (and that of John Stonehouse who he quoted), was that if you allow immigrant communities to maintain customs and practices inappropriate to this country you will end up with a society that is dangerously divided.
Looking around after years of being told to celebrate "diversity" it's hard to deny that he had a point.

Anti-immigrant bashing is hardly new. Hitler and Goebbels used it to much greater effect than Powell yet no one hails them as genius visionaries.

Wonder why?

Originally Posted by andyrich66

We have to be careful when discussing Powell.
He did not oppose all immigration in fact as Health Secretary he oversaw an influx
of migrants to work in the N.H.S. Powell was a highly educated man not a racist bigot.
He believed in equality before the law, that families should be kept together
and that any re-patriation policy should be purely voluntary.
Hi was disgusted at the failure of the political elite think through the possible long term consequences of their actions.
Transcripts of Powell's 1968 Birmingham speech are easily found in the Internet.
Many people who comment on the speech have never actually read it properly and
base their opinions on charactures created by journalists looking for sensational
headlines.
His basic argument, as I understand it, was that if levels of immigration were too high
(as he believed) then parts of the country would be changed beyond recognition and society would be unable to integrate the new arrivals.
He warned of a growth in "vested interests in the preservation and sharpening of racial and religious differences" - The example he used were Sikhs who happened to be in the news at time but you could easily substitue the reference with a more modern one to Islam.
His point (and that of John Stonehouse who he quoted), was that if you allow immigrant communities to maintain customs and practices inappropriate to this country you will end up with a society that is dangerously divided.
Looking around after years of being told to celebrate "diversity" it's hard to deny that he had a point.

This is why i don't take leftist smears to heart because we all know Enoch Powell was a great man and for our leftist friends to call him a racist shows the lack of foresight. To think Enoch Powell was a racist just means they have "Watched" Rivers of blood and has been told to hate it.

Originally Posted by andyrich66

Comparisons with Hitler are facile.
The Nazis stood for legalised in-equality, forced repatriation and of course murder.

They also stood for anti-political correctness, the abolition of multi-culturalism, the preservation of the traditional German way of life, and German jobs for German people.

They also warned us about the dangers of immigration way before Powell jumped on the bandwagon.

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

The Conservative party and Labour party of the time also supported these things.
Are they Nazis too?

They were nowhere near as tough on immigration as the Nazis.

That's why the reputation of soft-touch Britain is so well known.

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

If you regard toughness as extermination then of course.

Tell me. Would you have rather lived in Nazi Germany during its glorious heyday than in the 21st century multi-cultural cesspit that is Britain today?