News: "54% of all school pupils in Greater London do not speak English as first language" - Page 2

Robin · 04-05-2008, 07:08 PM

This also proves that the recent influx of Poles is not helping us.

zbrahead · 04-05-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

One in seven pupils in English Primary schools do not speak English as their first language it has emerged.

11% of pupils did not speak English as their first language in 1997 - just before Labour won the General Election in May of that year. Eleven years later, the figure is put at over 14% and it may be up to 21.5%.

In London (the entire 32 London Borough area covering a total population area of 7.4 million people not including illegal immigrants) 54% of all school pupils (primary and secondary) do not speak English as their first language.

Nick Ferrari, presenter on London's independent news radio station LBC FM, said to a listener telephoning at 7.15 am "Surely these figures give reason for a pause for thought."

In one school in the east London Borough of Newham pupils speak 40 languages, Mr. Ferrari reported.

He also said of the new statistics about the number of school pupils in England who do not speak English "25% of pupils of Chinese origin in English schools are singled out as being gifted compared to 14% of whites."

More on this at:

English not first language for 800,000 children - Telegraph

Where does it give figures as to how many do not speak english at all?

Upto 40 languages

I wish I knew that many languages, these children are quite clearly talented if they speak so many languages.

Robin · 04-05-2008, 08:41 PM

Still not clever if they cant speak English though.

They are in an English speaking country and it is the lingua franca of the world. They would be better to speak the one (English) language than 40 others.

zbrahead · 04-05-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin

Still not clever if they cant speak English though.

They are in an English speaking country and it is the lingua franca of the world. They would be better to speak the one (English) language than 40 others.

As I said, where does it say they don't speak english, hm?

Robin · 05-05-2008, 03:01 PM

And where does it say that I say none of them speak English ?

zbrahead · 05-05-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin

Still not clever if they cant speak English though.

They are in an English speaking country and it is the lingua franca of the world. They would be better to speak the one (English) language than 40 others.

See the bolded implication.

Robin · 05-05-2008, 05:25 PM

Notice the word IF ??

zbrahead · 05-05-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin

Notice the word IF ??

Notice the word: IMPLICATION.

Robin · 05-05-2008, 06:47 PM

That was not implied in my post.

zbrahead · 05-05-2008, 06:48 PM

It was. Read the post I made a while ago...

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04-05-2008, 07:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 749	This also proves that the recent influx of Poles is not helping us.

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Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 749	Still not clever if they cant speak English though. They are in an English speaking country and it is the lingua franca of the world. They would be better to speak the one (English) language than 40 others.

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Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 749	And where does it say that I say none of them speak English ?

05-05-2008, 05:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 749	Notice the word IF ??

05-05-2008, 06:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 749	That was not implied in my post.

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zbrahead Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grimsby Posts: 190	It was. Read the post I made a while ago...