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Old 19-04-2008, 03:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default "Enoch Powell: the great lie survives" - article by E. Powell biographer Simon Heffer

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Default Article by Alan Cochrane on The Late Enoch Powell

Please see the readers' comments left after the article on the following link:

Not in the tradition of Enoch Powell : January 2008 : Three Line Whip : Politics : Telegraph Blogs
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Comments from readers of the Telegraph blog article about The Late Enoch Powell on the link given in the last posting to this thread include:

Tory Toff wrote on 8.1.2008 "Professor of Greek in his 20's! What an intellect."

John Storm wrote on 8.1.2008 "The greatest post war English Parliamentarian. Unfortunately for Enoch, he was far too honest to be a politician. What a fantastic Prime Minister he would have made. The more time passes, the more towering a figure he becomes."

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Heffer was very good on Question time Thursday night and his biography of powell is superb.

Contrast his beahviour with the outburst against Powell by the ghsatly Harriet Harmon.

It is 40 years this weekend since the speach was made and I think it is good we are revisiting some of its arguments, for too long Powells views have just been dismissed just because he commited the crime of speaking his mind.
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for too long Powell's views have just been dismissed.....
It is a pity that The Late Enoch Powell was against the UK having nuclear weapons.

It is also a shame he spoke against a new party being set up to fight the EEC/EU (he once claimed "the problems we have in our country will not be solved by starting new political parties"). He failed to back UKIP when it set was set up in 1993/4 despite the fact that europhile 'Conservative' Major was trying to force the UK into the euro at the time (with Labour and the Liberal 'Democrats' backing the european single currency then - just as they both do now).

As someone pointed out in another thread - Enoch Powell advised people to vote Conservative (1970). And then he left that party (1974) turning up six months later as a candidate for the Ulster Unionist Party (a new party compared to the Conservatives and Labour - new parties being the very thing that he had spoken against).

His work in defending the Union of Northern Ireland with Great Britain was excellent, of course. But he was wrong not to back UKIP given that Major and the europhiles in the Conservative Party were out to destroy our Pound in the period when UKIP was set up.

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It is a pity that The Late Enoch Powell was against the UK having nuclear weapons.

It is also a shame he spoke against a new party being set up to fight the EEC/EU (he once claimed "the problems we have in our country will not be solved by starting new political parties"). He failed to back UKIP when it set was set up in 1993/4 despite the fact that europhile 'Conservative' Major was trying to force the UK into the euro at the time (with Labour and the Liberal 'Democrats' backing the european single currency then - just as they both do now).

As someone pointed out in another thread - Enoch Powell advised people to vote Conservative (1970). And then he left that party (1974) turning up six months later as a candidate for the Ulster Unionist Party (a new party compared to the Conservatives and Labour - new parties being the very thing that he had spoken against).

His work in defending the Union of Northern Ireland with Great Britain was excellent, of course. But he was wrong not to back UKIP given that Major and the europhiles in the Conservative Party were out to destroy our Pound in the period when UKIP was set up.
He did back UKIP at the Newbury by-election in 1993, I have a picture at home of him and Alan Sked but he never joined or offered more open support.
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He did back UKIP at the Newbury by-election in 1993, I have a picture at home of him and Alan Sked but he never joined or offered more open support.
Do you have a source/link for this most interesting piece of information, RJT?

What I want is a copy of a press report about and/or a statement/letter from The Late Enoch Powell in which it is confirmed that he backed UKIP at the Newbury Parliamentary By-Election of 1993.

This would be very useful to me in case - when I quote the above information from you - I am asked to verify it with a source.

In 2006, eurosceptic Daily Telegraph columnist Simon Heffer (official biographer of The Late Enoch Powell) backed UKIP candidate Mr. Nigel Farage MEP at the Bromley-Chislehurst Parliamentary By-Election but his support was for Mr. Farage in particular in that contest and not for UKIP in general.

I was just wondering if the same scenario applied to Mr. Powell at Newbury (i.e. that Mr. Powell may have backed the UKIP candidate at Newbury but not necessarily the actual party there or the party overall nationally from that time onwards)? From what you write, RJT (quote above), it appears that that may have been the case.

Any link to a report confirming Mr. Powell's support for the UKIP candidate and/or for the party itself at Newbury in 1993 would be appreciated.

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