Mikeuk

Well...

We are not equal in intellect. Are you equipped to give a lecture on Quantum Physics at Cambridge? I certainly am not.

We are not equal in physical ability. Much as I would like to earn Beckham's salary or be chosen for the next Olympic Games I fear the fact that I am half dead after running twenty yards will tell against me.

So much for what God or Nature has given us. As for wealth, the rich and poor are as far apart as ever and getting further apart.

Of course, in England we were all supposed to be 'equal before the law'. Do you seriously believe that has ever been true?

So when you breezily inform a man who is out of work through chronic illness and cannot afford to pay for the treatment he needs, that he is 'equal to everybody else', but no you can't give him a job, what exactly do you mean?

The truth is, isn't it, that your words are as empty as those of the racist filth (is that the right expression?) who drew up the Declaration of Independence?

The Bear

It is precisely because the people who did draw up the DOI were so bigoted as to not even consider that they were being racist in their thinking and actions that constant attacks MUST be maintained against the dinosaurs who still believe the foolish notion that some races are better than others as an absolute and continue the foul concept of Unter / Uber menschen

We are all equal to the extent that we have the right to progress to the limits of our abilities and ambitions irrespective of our race and no one has the right or the justification to impede anyone’s progress on racial grounds.

How far will any single persons abilities take them? Are every bodies ambitions the same, to get to the top of the tree?

Of course not, but a persons race must never be used by anyone else to prevent another person from doing the best that he can within the opportunities that exist, and that means those opportunities must never be constrained simply because a man is of a particular race.

This is far more than a matter of law. Law is there in this case as a way of reducing the influence of the bigoted prejudiced that still can be all too often found spouting their foolish filth.

I look forward to the day when the law is no longer needed, when people grasp the simple fact that a man is a man end of story.

As I wrote before, welcome to the gutter with the rest of us Mike, you’re an equal amongst equals. Better get used to it.

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Mikeuk

OTOH, given your willingness to quote a fictional villain because he 'said' something vaguely on your wavelength, I can't understand your reluctance to quote the US Founding Fathers, who endorsed more or less word-for-word the mantra you keep repeating.

I can't be bothered to look up your exact words but I think you said that as long the words were 'true' (ie you agreed with them) it didn't matter who uttered them.

Mikeuk

A Porsche and a Trabant are both automobiles.

Both have four wheels and an ashtray. Admittedly in the case of the Trabant the steering wheel and engine are optional extras, but the general principle is the same.

Other than that, the two have virtually nothing in common.

BonnieDundee

The truth is there are great genetic differences between individuals but they are as much or as more so between members of what is called one race than those of different races. Particularly if you define races as say black or Asian. The West Africans are as different from the East Africans as they are from Arabs or Basques. And individual West Africans are generally more genetically different from each other than they are from Asians or Aborigines. It is therefore true that genes matter but racial stereotypes are meaningless.

And MikeUK your quote from D'Maistre is mainly more about cultural and tradition as about race.

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Leopold Kohr.

BonnieDundee

One thing is clear, we have an immigration problem in the UK and it should be stemmed.

I personally think Cornwall has one as well, what with all the English settlers going there and destroying its heritage, but that is a different story.

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Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

The Bear

I totally agree.

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Mikeuk

Yes of course, and I would always choose to employ an intelligent African in preference to a less intelligent European.

However we do not live as atomised individuals in a single global community, but rather as ethnically-based groups particular to geographical areas. Comparative ranges of intellect are therefore of crucial importance in making commercial decisions to buy or locate in particular countries and continents.

Genetic differences between West Africans and East Africans do not alter the fact that there has never been a Sub-Saharan equivalent of Einstein, al-Haytham or Su Song. That fact alone points to the reality of inequality, but of course most businessment are not concerned with genius. They are primarily involved with basic levels of ability and commonsense at the medium and lower sectors of the intellectual scale, and they tend to base realistic expectations upon the past experience of others. You can call that 'stereotyping' if you like. It is often good business.

So if you were a buyer for an electronics firm would you seriously consider buying from Congo or Mozambique? No, I thought not.

The Bear

How do you know?

Genius is about performance in a particular and nearly always a very narrow domain.

Daniel Goleman’s book on intelligence examines why it is that people with a high IQ often do badly in broader aspects of their lives, an extension of the idiot savant effect, and presents some interesting conclusions.

To do well in the environment in which they exist is the true sign of high intelligence and even genius.

So just because the sub Saharan equivalent of Einstein, al-Haytham or Su Song have not been visible to the outside world does not equate to their non existence within their own environment.

Why ever not? If the goods are of a satisfactory quality, and the delivery times and support available was acceptable, and the price was right, then that’s all that matters. What else could there be?

Mike, what you are expressing is racism pure and simple.

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British-Conservatism

Your the only racist here Bear as your the only one that backs anti-white discrimination policies in employment.

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