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Robin · 20-04-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Why are British citizens allowed to move abroad?

Why should the government stop them ?

Robin · 20-04-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

But if you want to stop all incoming immigration, surely it's only fair to stop British citizens from moving abroad?

No . That has nothing to do with it.
Each country can allow its own citizens to leave if they so wish. It doesn`t mean that every country has to allow other citizens through its borders.
If North Korea said that it would allow British subjects to go and live there, it does not mean that we have to allow North Koreans to move here.

Each country chooses who it allows in, and it`s not reciprocal unless we want it to be.

The Bear · 20-04-2008, 12:06 PM

I think that people should move on from a “British immigration Policy” and realise that what we should be thinking in terms of is the EU immigration policy, we are after all a member state of the European Union.

Far better than sitting on The Rock whinging about remaining “les isolétes” as the French contemptuously call us we would be much better employed pushing within the EU for a hardening of the EU borders.

Actually we are a bit of a problem for people in the other EU states as it is.

By allowing so many immigrants to Britain in particular from places such as Bangladesh and Pakistan, let alone by recognising their right to claim British Citizenship, a right very often only as a result of an assertion by a village head man that someone is the legitimate son or daughter of an existing British national, what we are doing is actually providing a portal for these people to gain access to the whole of the EU.

Right now, or at least up to now, there has been marked advantage to such immigrants staying in Britain to predate off the British Welfare State, but once the stealth cuts get serious they will up sticks and head for another European state.

Maybe there is a good bargaining chip there that could be used to get the EU borders less porous.

Maybe there should be a push to get the EU less refugee friendly at the same time.

Robin · 20-04-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

I think that people should move on from a “British immigration Policy” and realise that what we should be thinking in terms of is the EU immigration policy, we are after all a member state of the European Union.

Far better than sitting on The Rock whinging about remaining “les isolétes” as the French contemptuously call us we would be much better employed pushing within the EU for a hardening of the EU borders.

Actually we are a bit of a problem for people in the other EU states as it is.

By allowing so many immigrants to Britain in particular from places such as Bangladesh and Pakistan, let alone by recognising their right to claim British Citizenship, a right very often only as a result of an assertion by a village head man that someone is the legitimate son or daughter of an existing British national, what we are doing is actually providing a portal for these people to gain access to the whole of the EU.

Right now, or at least up to now, there has been marked advantage to such immigrants staying in Britain to predate off the British Welfare State, but once the stealth cuts get serious they will up sticks and head for another European state.

Maybe there is a good bargaining chip there that could be used to get the EU borders less porous.

Maybe there should be a push to get the EU less refugee friendly at the same time.

We dont want to interfere with other countries immigration policy and we dont want them to interfere with ours, so we dont want to be part of a European immigration policy.
I dont care what the French call us, We dont need to change any policy just to stop them calling us names.
If we are a problem for other EU states then not only is itr mutual, it is further proof that we should not be part of the EU.

20-04-2008, 12:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,079	I think that people should move on from a “British immigration Policy” and realise that what we should be thinking in terms of is the EU immigration policy, we are after all a member state of the European Union. Far better than sitting on The Rock whinging about remaining “les isolétes” as the French contemptuously call us we would be much better employed pushing within the EU for a hardening of the EU borders. Actually we are a bit of a problem for people in the other EU states as it is. By allowing so many immigrants to Britain in particular from places such as Bangladesh and Pakistan, let alone by recognising their right to claim British Citizenship, a right very often only as a result of an assertion by a village head man that someone is the legitimate son or daughter of an existing British national, what we are doing is actually providing a portal for these people to gain access to the whole of the EU. Right now, or at least up to now, there has been marked advantage to such immigrants staying in Britain to predate off the British Welfare State, but once the stealth cuts get serious they will up sticks and head for another European state. Maybe there is a good bargaining chip there that could be used to get the EU borders less porous. Maybe there should be a push to get the EU less refugee friendly at the same time. __________________ Signature removed because it wound me up every time I read it!

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