Mikeuk

Here we go again. From which Marxist academy did you graduate?

I am a Conservative and a traditionalist. I believe in an order and hierarchy which mirrors the order and hierarchy we observe in nature. Equality cannot exist in a free society.

There's only one fevered mind round here and that appears to be yours.

BonnieDundee

Most people aren't Marxists nor are they traditionalists.

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Learning's worst enemy is close mindedness as a result of arrogance.

If race was and is an eternal rule why did the concept of race only emerged out of colonial rule in the 18th century but not earlier on whem humanity is divided largely by divine power of religions or separate monarchy?

Saying that Australians cannot reproduce Chinese baby itself is not a scientifical conclusion but an axiomatical irrelevence. There is no genetic or anthropological definition of "Chinese". Nor is there one for an Australian.

On the average, North East Russians share more in Y chromosome pattern with Turko-Mongol central asians than their Western counterparts who speak similar East Slavic language. On the average, Northern Chinese share more Y chromosome pattern with Koreans rather than Southern Chinese. English men on the average are more in common with Danes than certain Southern English population. Not to forget that Dark skinned Northern Africans have more common with "Caucasians" than the typical "Western Africans".

So am I trying to redefine races? Not really for there has not been one based on hard science nor has any consensus made on what race is. Y chromosome is just a chain of unbroken chain of male heritage. Genetic makers afterall are specific occurence of mutation in our DNA. Most heritage genetic materials recombine when passed down to the descendents and scientists dont know how some work.

Saying that one is a member of "White European" is as scientifically meaningful as saying one is member of Catholic faith or one is a member of American Rifle Associtaion.

On biological determinism, it seems alot easier to forget the fact that in industralised countries in the 20th centuries, IQ poin rose 3 points per decades while in desperte poverty of civil war inflicted African Nations, people are severly under-nourished.

To apply "biological determinism", everyone seems to forget that there exists a Roman and Greek "Master Race" who built the earliest European civilisation, and must have gone through severe detrimental genetic mutation throughout the centuries, and according to the logics of the religion of "racial determinism" that dominant master race of the early 20th century were the "Nordic Aryans" where Germany and Britian emerged as colonial and military power. When Romans were building civilisations the Slavic tribes were still wandering around in ways what the Roman poets and historians called barbarians, heaven forbid these Eastern European, Caucasians and Central Asians to emerge as the superpower called Soviet Union!

The Chinese has been the dominant military and economic powerhouse of the world for thousands of years with level of technology and economic production far surpass the whole continent of Europe while the Arabs had been the best world explorers and discovers of the laws of the natural science prior to the end of European renaissance. Since Ming China at her end tuned inward and declined while Arabs turned religious fundmentalistic, there must be severe mass genetic mutation as suggested by the doctrines of "biological racial determinism".

But we heard no news about the discoveries of such mass racial biological mutation which inevitablely caused the rise and downfall of "races" as their destiny is not only encoded in their genes by written by the colour of their skin, according to the supporters of "racial biological determinism". The only explanation they can offer, as you can guess, is what we call "political correctness" in the scientific academia.

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British Conservatives talked about the biological science behind "race". So I sticked to it instead of social observable patterns.

But facing arguments that "culture" and "natural abilities" comes from "biological Race", it is more reliable to discuss "race" in depth rather than social speculation.

Olympic Flame

Dialectical materialism of Marxist philosophy is very close to the principles of materialism which views matter as independent objects not influenced by human perceptions.

Members here confused Marxist philosophy with neo-liberal ideologies and neo-marxism in the 60s which is a product of the Frankfurt School.

The Bear

(Wipes fevered brow!)

Equality of opportunity based primarily on ability and secondly on justice not only can exist, it must in any decent society.

You ask from which Marxist academy did I graduate.

What do you understand by Marxism? (this should be entertaining! )

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British-Conservatism

The number of Marxists here seems to be growing.

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BonnieDundee

Indeed. There is now one it seems.......

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

BonnieDundee

I quite like the Frankfurt school, much better than boring old Leninist or Trotsykist stuff.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

Mikeuk

We had a 'decent' society in Britain for centuries. It was based on order and tradition; not upon egalitarianism, which has to be imposed from above by diktat.

Egalitarianism is a key principle of Marxism. While I was being a little tongue-in-cheek about your 'Marxist academy' I assume that your commitment to egalitarianism stems from the usual left-wing brainwashing that occurs in higher educational establishments these days.