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Mikeuk

Unfortunately, when presented with the sad facts, the brainwashed element comes out with the 'R' word, which was invented by Trotsky. BTW.

Call them races, sub-species or what you will, two Australian Aborigines are not going to procreate a Chinese baby any time soon. And that's despite the fact that we all share 90% of our DNA with a chimp and 70% with a cockroach.

Nor is Zimbabwe about to become one of the great economic powers of the twenty-first century; although it had a rather better chance of going places when it was called Rhodesia and run by Europeans.

None of these facts worry me because I'm a white European, so I'm unlikely to feel any sense of inferiority until the Chinese finally take over the globe.

Of course I can understand why the Blacks soothe their hurt feelings with sites that tell you the Black man invented the toilet, the internal combustion engine and the guitar. Go take a look via Google if you want a good laugh.

One of the reasons European culture is in decline and Oriental culture in the ascendancy is this ridiculous tendency on our part to wax sentimental about 'less developed' races. The Chinese and Japs find our attitude totally incomprehensible.

Maybe the Bear or one of his antiracist mates will give us one good reason for supposing that the races of man are equally endowed with intellectual abilities?

Olympic Flame

The variation is continuous, not discrete, hence genetic does not support entities such as "geographical race".
Note that there is always a chance for an English man to have more in common in alleles than a non-English man as compared to his fellow English men.
The variation within socially known population such as English population, Danish population and West African population is far greater than variation cross these groups.
Thats why to say geographical race exist, supporters need to come up with a very restricted biological definition with abstract statistical significance to create mathematical stratification with "selected alleles". It can still be done but it will lose most its meaningfulness either socially or biologically.

Mikeuk

Actually most of them keep very quiet about their true views, because they know the likely consequences.

They also know that they will be hailed as heroes by the BNP/KKK element which, again, is likely to be highly counterproductive as far as their careers are concerned.

So they tend to avoid 'racial' matters altogether.

Olympic Flame

The Majority of scientific, Medical and physiologic bodies?
How sure are you? They did not say human developed into sub-species called race which either evolved to have more intelligence or more reproduction ability.

Mikeuk

You are over-emphasising genetic technicalities at the expense of observable sociological phenomena.

If you compare English and Danish civil society you will find much in common. An Englishman can pass for a Dane and vice versa. Even the cadence of speech is similar (although the languages are very different). You do not need to be a geneticist to guess that the two peoples are closely related, which of course they are.

You could not make such comparison between Denmark and, say, Haiti, which has been ruled by people of African descent for 200 years. It is a backward nation in which, I think, you would not choose to live, and the same applies to a large number of 'Black' nations, although not all. Nigeria is oil-rich, but I think very few Europeans would go there from choice.

I think I would rather live in Barbados than Bosnia, but that is the exception; not the rule.

The Bear

It’s not about intellectual abilities, though that’s a dangerous area to enter as once you start to use indicators to dimension ability that are non verbal and non social and non cultural there’s more than a few racial supremacists who would be in for a very nasty surprise.

It’s about equality.

It’s about equality as men and women, equality of opportunity, equality of respect from and to, recognition of fellow humanity and more, all things that seems to go by the board in the fevered hate filled minds of the racist knuckle draggers of the world.

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Mikeuk

Because the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis believed in racial inequality does not automatically mean that equality must be 'true'.

Just as in nature there is no equality between individuals it would be extraordinary if all races (or whatever you want to call them) had developed pari passu.

What you call the 'vile' crime of racism is a curious thing, because most people (who probably do not have strong views one way or the other) are likely to have parents, grandparents and/or close friends who are 'racist' by any standard.

You must live in a sheltered cage, Bear.