The Bear

Sharia phone marriage of autistic man 'invalid' - Telegraph

This raises a rather obvious and very important question.

“Were the grounds for the invalidation of this marriage confined to this particular marriage on the basis of the incompetence of “IC” or were the grounds for the invalidation of this marriage on the grounds that a marriage conducted in this way was unlawful in terms of British law.”

This is actually very important.

If the former then the next question needs to be raised
“How many marriages have been conducted in this way between British citizens and non-British citizens?”

There is then, depending on the answer to that, the question of “the validity of such marriage in terms of being valid grounds for the granting of a British visa and subsequent granting of British citizenship.”

If the right answers are not forthcoming then the law needs to be tightened up so that the right answers ARE the result.



The matter of multiple wives and the sending of British “benefit” money overseas where multiple wives and kids are involved is also a matter that needs to be addressed and closed such that it’s a case of one man one wife and only those resident in the Britain should get British benefit cash and so far I see no sign of that taking place.

It’s time that these nasty little scams were put to rest.

John Connor

Concur.

However, with regard to polygyny, I don't think it's any business of the government's if I want one, two, five or twelve wives.

(I'm not a church elder either, so it's no business of the church's)

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The Bear

It is as it has been decided by the British people that ONE MAN ONE WIFE is the way that WE choose to have matters, and it is when there are financial implications that impact on the government and so the tax payers by not sticking to that RULE.

John Connor

As long as I ain't on the dole or otherwise sucking taxpayers' money, it's naff all to do with the rest of the British population either.

Unless someone would like to show me the contract I signed in which I agree to society constraining my life, of course.

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John Connor

While you're at it, show me the contract I signed stating that I'd pay taxes. And the one I signed stating that I'd pay NI in return for NHS treatment.

Lose the slave mentality. You do not owe society anything - you're an individual.

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The Bear

The document?

My birth certificate.

It provides me with registration to Britain as a British person, it carries certain rights, it carries certain responsibilities.

As for society, of course I owe society! Just as society owes me!

Society provides me with the certainty that I will not starve, that I will get medical treatment, that I will get an education, that I will be protected, and I have an identity as a part of a society the sum of which is far greater than the sum of its individuals and all quite apart from my having access to the infrastructure of the country that over the years society has built up.

John Connor

You signed your birth certificate?

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The Bear

No, it was part of the deal that let me stay in Britain, be educated, receive medical care, be assured that I would be housed and fed at all times, in short, benefit from what society provides.

Once I achieved majority I had a choice. Accept the pay and rations or bail out. I and others decided to accept the pay and rations, with that comes requirement to march to the drum.

It's a shame the lead item on this thread has gone astray because I think it does raise a very important issue.

Ea of Dune

All well and good until/if you lose your job. Then said 3 or 4 wives become a burden on everyone else if you follow a social/religious code that dictates they can not work.
Of course you could abolish all forms of welfare, then the other side effect of course being lots of begging families. When the economy takes a down turn and the families that where permitted to have 5 wives and are irresponsible end up on the streets who is going to clear that mess up?

Bit of a tough one this.

Ea of dune

Hartlepool

The common standard of 2.4 children per union is already blown out of the window with the 5 wives/women idea,would it remained at 2.4 per union but most who have 5 wives have more than the average 2.4 children.

Would a man who has 5 wives also have the common standard of 5x2.4 children(total 12),or more than that?

Lorra,lorra money for us all to support such as that.