Who's Britain is it anyway?

British-Conservatism · 17-03-2008, 06:45 PM

Great documentry on immigration to Britain in the 1970's.

YouTube - Who's Britain is it - #1

MagnaCarta · 18-03-2008, 03:52 AM

Well it seems the opening few lines uttered by people over 30 years ago is all too true. They won't / will not integrate, they will simply infiltrate.

youcanhandlethetruth · 18-03-2008, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Great documentry on immigration to Britain in the 1970's.
YouTube - Who's Britain is it - #1

What has the Conservative party ever done to stop immigration ?
I presume you support them ?

youcanhandlethetruth · 18-03-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MagnaCarta

Well it seems the opening few lines uttered by people over 30 years ago is all too true. They won't / will not integrate, they will simply infiltrate.

What do you mean by integrate ?
For example if you wanted to live in a foreign country, would you be willing to adopt the main faith/customs of that country in order to live there ?
Personally I might learn the language and adopt some of the customs but I wouldn't change my lifestyle or faith too drastically and try to pretend I'm a different person.
So why should they change, give up their culture and suddenly become "British" ?

bornfree · 18-03-2008, 07:47 AM

There's a huge difference between you and a few other expatriates living in a foreign country and immigration. There are quite a few British people living in France for example but this doesn't constitute immigration, there aren't millions of them there, they haven't changed the character of entire towns in the way that immigration has changed the character of some British towns.
If there were millions of them, if their presence completely changed the character of entire towns, if they blatantly rejected French customs and the French faith, which is predominantly Catholic, the French would resent them, they would expect them to be more French.

Smidgey · 18-03-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bornfree

the French would resent them, they would expect them to be more French.

Luckily for the French, I have yet to hear a better deterrent against immigration than making people become more French.

British-Conservatism · 18-03-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

What has the Conservative party ever done to stop immigration ?
I presume you support them ?

Im a Conservative the Conservative party isnt.

MagnaCarta · 18-03-2008, 01:08 PM

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What do you mean by integrate ? For example if you wanted to live in a foreign country, would you be willing to adopt the main faith/customs of that country in order to live there ?

Yes I agree, but I wouldn't move to a different country knowing its cultures and demand they change things for me. I wouldn't wish to move somewhere and then bleat on about not being happy about it. I certainly could not get benefits in another country. The simple word is 'respect' If I move to another country, I will respect their laws, traditions and customs. I don't have to be part of it but I certainly wouldn't complain and show how much I hate their traditions, religion or customs.

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Personally I might learn the language and adopt some of the customs but I wouldn't change my lifestyle or faith too drastically and try to pretend I'm a different person.
So why should they change, give up their culture and suddenly become "British" ?

Out of respect for your host country you would try to do you best not to upset the apple cart. Who said anything about changing faith? That is a typical PC reply, you are trying to exaggerate a very simple point.

Yes, it does work both ways, if I was to move somewhere, I wouldn't constantly complain about not being happy with their cultures, laws and religions. Same applies to those coming to this country.

Its simple, if I don't like it when I go on holiday somewhere, I simply never return. If I decided to move to Saudi, I wouldn't complain about Muslim religious festivals and moan about how much they offend me. Its simple really, the message I'm putting quite plainly is if you don't like it, then move back to the country to came from.

brian pearson · 18-03-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

What has the Conservative party ever done to stop immigration ?
I presume you support them ?

I used to support them. I remember Norman Tebbit trying to put forward the argument that multiculterism would not work, multi ethnicism might and he was attacked from all sides, including his own.

Tebbit used to put forward lots of 'radical views' and get a battering for his trouble. I also agreed with his cricket argument. When I see England play Pakistan and English born supporters wear Pakistani shirts it shows that we have problems.

Gramboy2 · 19-03-2008, 10:16 AM

Haven't you got the message yet.

Your job is to be taxed to the hilt and be grateful for it.

Delight in watching your money being used to unravel the values of the country in which you were born and lead us all to a coffee coloured utopia.

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18-03-2008, 07:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
bornfree Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	There's a huge difference between you and a few other expatriates living in a foreign country and immigration. There are quite a few British people living in France for example but this doesn't constitute immigration, there aren't millions of them there, they haven't changed the character of entire towns in the way that immigration has changed the character of some British towns. If there were millions of them, if their presence completely changed the character of entire towns, if they blatantly rejected French customs and the French faith, which is predominantly Catholic, the French would resent them, they would expect them to be more French.

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Gramboy2 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baco Beyond Posts: 115	Haven't you got the message yet. Your job is to be taxed to the hilt and be grateful for it. Delight in watching your money being used to unravel the values of the country in which you were born and lead us all to a coffee coloured utopia.