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Old 25-03-2008, 06:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Maybe but let's not try to start the trouble brewing - attack the government instead !

It probably is too many but you can't blame the immigrants - they've been given their ticket to a better life, no wonder they take it.

It's the sodding government (again).
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Old 28-03-2008, 10:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have settled in another country and I have had no problems
whatsoever.

A) Because I respected the country and it's laws.

B) I learnt the language of that county and did not expect
to be provided with a translator.

C) I had something to offer the country with my professional
skills.

D) And I did my best to integrate into their society...

This is all very easy to say and do, as I moved from the UK
to Switzerland, the cultural differences and values are not
that difficult to adjust to from the UK. As most of Switzerlands
immigrants are western european. British immigrants come from
far more diverse cultures and therefore is more difficult to integrate
to British society. An integration that sucessive Govts have hindered
by bending overbackwards to accomodate their own cultures/values
and beleifs, to the detriment of ours and integration, which is the only
thing an immigrant needs, association with the native population.

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Old 29-03-2008, 01:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It probably is too many but you can't blame the immigrants - they've been given their ticket to a better life, no wonder they take it.

It's the sodding government (again).
Spot on! You can't blame immigrants, in there position I would do exactly the same thing, as would most others if they were honest. In our case it should be space not race, except for the Muslim extremists who are determined to turn Britain into an Islamic state, they should be fast tracked back to whatever Country they or their ancestors came from!
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Old 29-03-2008, 08:39 AM   #24 (permalink)
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There are immigrants, and there are colonists.

The colonists are the real problem, and the New Labour lot driven by Blair played and continue to play right into their hands.
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"There are immigrants and there are colonists" - an interesting parallel, the "Mayflower" with Empire Windrush"!

One did change America, and the other will absolutely change the UK, but the Mayflower colonists had to wait probably around 150 years before they started to out-populate the native Indians, and I guess with about another 90 years to go, the Non-European migrants will do the same to the UK. Food for thought.
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"There are immigrants and there are colonists" - an interesting parallel, the "Mayflower" with Empire Windrush"!

One did change America, and the other will absolutely change the UK, but the Mayflower colonists had to wait probably around 150 years before they started to out-populate the native Indians, and I guess with about another 90 years to go, the Non-European migrants will do the same to the UK. Food for thought.
No, NOT the Empire Windrush.

The people who came on that boat and those who come today with the same mind set, they were immigrants, they came to get stuck in with the rest of us, to come to what was to them Mother England, and they have done so and have been of great benefit to this country.

Their kids and their grandkids in some cases are another matter but that’s more down to government policies and weak politically influenced policing than them.

The problems today come on aircraft from countries, and the number of countries are few but the numbers of people are many, who are NOT coming to get stuck in with the rest of us, they are coming to exploit what we and our fathers and grandfathers have worked and even died for in order to make Britain what it was.

If that was the only problem it would be bad enough but at least manageable by determined policing but it is not nor is it the REAL danger that we are facing.

The REAL danger is the huge number are coming to invade and establish satellites of their own so called culture, in other words colonies.

Are our government standing up to them? Are they confronting them? Are they hell as like. They have representatives IN government as advisors and are bending over backwards to HELP the invasion and all in the cause of the lunatic ideology of “multiculturalism” and no doubt and to a great extent to hold onto each and every vote that they can.

WHEN will they clue up?
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Well it seems the opening few lines uttered by people over 30 years ago is all too true. They won't / will not integrate, they will simply infiltrate.
What, you want them to integrate? You want the blood of the British to become assimilated with third-world immigrants? You don't care if our noble race is bred out of distinct existence?
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Don't you live in the United States, F_E?

Noble race?
Come on, that's the kind of **** Hitler spouted. Ideas can be noble. Nations can be noble. People, individually, can be noble. Groups as a whole are usually not.

Bred out of existence?
Do the sums. It just doesn't add up. Unless of course you're the worst kind of blood purist and believe you're only white (aryan?) if you can trace your ancestors back to the Battle of Hastings.
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Come on, that's the kind of **** Hitler spouted.
Yes, there was once a time when children were taught to be proud of who they are, and of the achievements of their nation and their forefathers. Now such sentiment receives a response that makes use of the name of Hitler. Is this how far we have fallen away from our traditional way of thinking? All nations are noble and unique in one way or another - but the British are an attractive and intelligent people, and deserve to remain who they are, in their own land, just as much as the Kurds or Tibetans or anyone else. Why should we be assimilated to third world immigrants and lose who we are? Do you believe all races are identical AM, intellectually and otherwise? Why should we all become coffee-coloured? Our people have made a unique contribution to the world, and if you think the lower-iq masses of the third world can continue our achievements, you really do live in fantasy land, especially since all the evidence is to the contrary.

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Yes, we should just have loyalty towards concepts and ideas, not physical bonds like family, community and nation. That'll really keep us all together when things get tough, like during the Blitz.

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Do the sums. It just doesn't add up. Unless of course you're the worst kind of blood purist and believe you're only white (aryan?) if you can trace your ancestors back to the Battle of Hastings.
oh ok, you're right, we might have a good few centuries of nice minority status when we really find out how wonderful the dream of global equality is - but we might not ever get totally exterminated as a seperate people.
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Hah, what a way to spin what I said. I shan't bother replying since you clearly lack the maturity to debate clearly.

I notice you failed to answer my question about your country of residence.
Interesting that.
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