Hunter

Careful there tara, you'll have everyone thinking you've joined the BNP...

However, I agree with everything you say, even the mental health 'professionals'. Once those people who are part of the 'system' are prepared to speak out against it, or even defy it, we'll be able to start putting things right - irrespective of Political doctrine.

Tara

If things in this country continue to go down the pan I may just join the ranks. I'll see how things are at the next election, until that time, I support no one.

TannyD

Forced converstion to Islam or major changes to the "English language"?

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London Orbital

"Tower Hamlets may lie just a few miles from the centre of the capital of the United Kingdom but in many regards it is a detached piece of the Third World."

Yeah, right.

On the resignation of one of the last of the white LibDem councillors in
Tower Hamlets - Louise Alexander - there's going to be a by-election in Weavers ward, Tower Hamlets, on May 1st - same day as the GLA election of course.

The BNP will participate and bring out the white voters - of which there are still quite a few left in this 'detached piece of the third world.'

Liberals, Respect and Labour will be worrying about one thing only - will they be putting up a white or a Bangla candidate.

Perfect conditions for the BNP of course - and we'll be bringing out all
the more of our voters for the GLA.

London Orbital

The East London Advertiser reports on the faith hate attack on Canon Ainsworth of St George's Church, Cannon Street Road, E1


Faith leaders unite to condemn gang attack on clergyman

17 March 2008
By Mike Brooke

MUSLIM leaders have added their voice to the condemnation of the attack on Canon Michael Ainsworth who was badly beaten up in the chuch grounds of St George's-in-the-East by a gang of Asian youths.

Scotland Yard is treating the attack in London's East End as a possible 'faith hate' crime.

The East London Mosque in Whitechapel issued a statement today (Monday) saying: "We were appalled to learn of the attack on Canon Ainsworth by two Asian youths in what is being described as an alcohol fuelled faith-hate crime."

The Imam of the mosque in Whitechapel Road, Abdul Qayum, described it as "this is a cowardly and despicable act."

He added: "Our congregation is united in condemnation. We pray that Canon Ainsworth has a full and speedy recovery."

The Muslim leaders are now joining the police appeal for witnesses to the March 5 attack to come forward.

The East London Muslim centre's executive director, Dilowar Khan, is calling on anyone with information to come forward.

"The youths who attacked Canon Michael need to be brought to justice," he said.

"Anyone who knows who's responsible for this disgraceful crime should contact police or call Crimestoppers."

The attack was in danger of undermining the efforts to bring the community together, he feared.

"We have become increasingly concerned about anti-social behaviour among a minority of youth, particularly the rise of alcohol related incidents," he added.

"We should not let such dreadful incidents detract from the hard work of communities in Tower Hamlets to create social harmony.

"Rather, we should increase our efforts to tackle these problems."

Canon Ainsworth moved to Shadwell with his family from Lancashire last summer and was working to 'connect' with the East End's large Bangladeshi community.

Police have confirmed the case is being treated as a faith-hate crime.

The Dean for Tower Hamlets and chairman of the Inter-Faith Forum, The Rev Alan Green, said: "Any incident that involves an element of abusive faith-related language should be handled in this way.

"An important part of our work is bringing together our local faith communities with the council and police to monitor and respond to all reported faith-hate incidents."

Police are appealing for witnesses to contact Tower Hamlets 'community safety' unit at Limehouse police station on 020-7275 4752, or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800-555111

youcanhandlethetruth

You say

"I think MI5 are banging their heads against a wall when it comes to exposing terrorists."

It is proved there was MI5 invlovement in the LOndon 7/7 bombings.
Terror Expert: London Bomber Was Working For MI5

"Last year it was discovered that a good majority of them are here illegally and able to work in the countries most vulnerable areas such as Airports, Police Service and even central Government."

Then you say:

"So, what's been / being done about it? NOTHING, they can't, the Governments so wound up in its own red tape regarding Human Rights and Racial Laws it can't do nothing without exposing themselves as totally incompetent."

Your conclusions amaze me !

Do you really think they can do nothing about it ? I mean come on !
The government knows exactly what they're doing - don't you get it ?

Here's another example from Tony Bennett's "letter from tower hamlets"

"ADVOCATING TERRORISM
“A recent BBC radio documentary said that: ‘In the streets of the East End, there are people openly advocating terrorism with the Police apparently powerless to stop them, there are secret conferences and study circles. There was a danger that the extremist element could snowball’.

Powerless to stop it ? What exactly IS the "Terrorism act" about then ?

Obviously nothing to do with islamic terrorism - if it was such a problem why haven't immigration measures been put in place too ?

Come on people - can't you see you're being fooled, it SOOOOO obvious !!

It's got nothing to do with government supposed fear of being unpopular - if that was the case, they wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq or signed the EU treaty

It's all about their own politically correct agenda by creating racial tension and supporting these extremist groups they invite in.

Whilst they stir up anti-Brit feeling amongst muslims by using them to act as provacateurs, we are fed the similar anti-islamic stories through the media and the tension builds and builds until it escalates into civil war and the real enemy who created it all slips off into the shadows....

All in an attempt to destroy us Brits and create a climate of racial fear to destroy our society and take away our rights.

All in the name of the "war on terror" and "security".

Please please find out about 7/7 and 9/11 or you'll be fighting the wrong enemy.

We, the muslims and the police are just the pawns in the game of "divide and conquer".

WAKE UP !

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Frith

Agree with you about "pawns". If people could be more discriminating and try thinking for themselves once in a while it would do wonders for what any government thinks it can achieve simply by pulling the chain occasionally and waiting for all its misdemeanours to be flushed away in a rush of imposed guilt.

youcanhandlethetruth

Nice to see you're thinking "outside the box" Frith !

Is there anything you don't agree with ?

Sure I didn't think so - ok thanks !

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Frith

Now, now, people like me always think outside the box. But you don't have to suspect everything and everyone just for the sake of it. Some things are good and true and so are some people. What is useful is being able to discern what and whom to throw out and what and whom to retain and always to base decisions on common sense and analytical procedure and not to allow anything else to interfere with the natural moral mode in each individual. This differs from individual to individual, of course, so you can't afford to be dogmatic about everyone and everything.

We are evolving creatures living in an evolving universe. We should never forget that. And we share our space with other creatures doing likewise. Life is hard. The world is unforgiving. These are facts. But because we are capable of evolution we can adapt to changes and travel on. Sometimes we make mistakes and die, or fall behind, but there is almost always the chance to learn from these mistakes and carry on. This makes us a poignant species in many ways, not half as powerful and glorious as we might think we are.

We made God in our own image and this is where we made our greatest error. We tend to lack insight about the world. But we are changing. Science is helping us to learn more about who and what we really are.

youcanhandlethetruth

I wasn't being sarcastic when I said "outside the box" - honestly !
I merely put it in quotes becasue it's a phrase.

Sorry my fault, but I wasn't trying to put you down I promise.
And my last comment was simply having a little joke.
No offence or sarcasm aimed at you at all really.

Frith - I can tell you are are a well meaning person, but surely you don't believe in the "natural moral mode in each individual" ?

Are you saying everybody means well ?
What about Hitler ?

Sometimes people follow evil without even knowing it - in fact they may well think they are doing good.
But sometimes they realize something is wrong, but still make a conscious decision to support it for whatever reason.

So I don't beleive it is totally natural - however on this forum it more a case of understanding who has the bad intentions and whose intentions are well meaning but mislaid.

Anyway I do take your point - we musn't become cynical for the sake of it,
But honestly I didn't suspect you of anything at all

However please believe me, I am well aware of the disinformation tactics used by some people on this forum, and throughout history.

There are people who will pull the wool over your eyes on here Frith - it's my duty to protect innocent and well meaning liberty lovers like yourself

What could I live with myself if I saw injustice but did nothing ?

If I have to tell the truth(no matter how bad it is) then I will have to do that....

Do you see what I mean ?

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