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Old 10-03-2008, 07:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's Stalinism, Hitlerism. If there are any doubts about the loyalty of a certain class of people, or a nationality, or a culture, you deport them. Or, by making life difficult for them, encourage them to emigrate.
These people don't just take themselves away when they emigrate, they take away a little bit of Britain with them, the old Britain of loyalty to the nation, neighbourliness, trust, decency, etc.
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So it's OK for English (and scots) to move abroad,
but its not OK for dark skined eastern people to come to the UK.

Hope I have this correctly.
It is ok for people of other races to come here providing that :-
a) there is not too many of them
b) they can support themselves
c) they don't break the law
d) they don't want sharia or communism (if they want that why not live in a 3rd world country - sorry I mean communist or Muslim country - similar thing really !)
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:38 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I've been living abroad for over six years now and I am returning very soon.

I am more than a little apprehensive about what I will find over there.

I'm a little concerned about living in a police state where frank discussion can get you arrested.

I'm a little concerned that there is no sensible political party worthy of my vote.

I am a little concerned that I am making the biggest mistake of my life to date. It might be the shortest emigration on record.
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As an expat I'd like to make a slight distinction. One of the main reasons I left was not immigration but multiculturism. I've got no problem with immigration as long as the immigrants learn our language, respect and accept our culture and do not demand anything other than equality under UK law. They are welcome to keep their language alive, form their own social organisations and even support their own country at cricket.
And isn't that going to impinge on our culture? Why should we welccome that?

In any case the main problem is one of sheer numbers.
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And isn't that going to impinge on our culture? Why should we welccome that?
How is any of that going to impinge on our culture?

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In any case the main problem is one of sheer numbers.
I'd say government incompetence. In any case, applying proper scrutiny to those claiming assylum and detaining them while that is done would keep out 99% of undesirable immigrants.
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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How is any of that going to impinge on our culture?
Because they are turning the monocultural society we have enjoyed for centuries into a multicultural society which many of us do not want.

Why do you suppose Enoch Powell attracted such support when he spoke out against immigration?
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Farage and UKIP could do this country a power of good if he made an elegant and informative Enoch Powell type speech, outlining clear truths that the troika could not deny, and which he could easily prove to the electorate, if need be.

Time for some balls Nigel,let's just get up there and do it,say it exactly as it is.
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Farage and UKIP could do this country a power of good if he made an elegant and informative Enoch Powell type speech, outlining clear truths that the troika could not deny, and which he could easily prove to the electorate, if need be.

Time for some balls Nigel,let's just get up there and do it,say it exactly as it is.
Why don't we stop pussyfooting around pretending that UKIP is other than what it is - a white middle-class, middle-aged party?

Loads of people (including myself) are white middle-class and middle-aged and we want UKIP to speak for us - instead of vainly deluding itself that there are hordes of ethnics and brats out there just waiting the call to back UKIP.

The people seek a respectable alternative to the BNP. UKIP can plug the gap.
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Thats what I said Mike......"Farage and UKIP could do this country a power of good.............

Yes UKIP can plug the gap,but we need a banner type speach at this particular time in the game,not more continued EU bashing or "keep the £" banners.

We need to be brave enough to say what we really represent and what we want for our country and it's people.
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