George

No, it's the opening of the national anthem. Roughly it translates as "Poland has not died while we still live".

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Kevin Adamson

Yes George but where will "we" be living ?

George

From the UK construction industry survey 2006: For 2005, wage rises matched the economy as a whole having been significantly stronger in 2004. You will note this is a markedly anti-immigration piece because despite these figures it claims, bizzarely, that "A steady supply of labour from Eastern Europe is helping keep wage inflation down".

From the Consultation Response to the House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee inquiry on the economic impact of immigration on the UK economy:

What impact has immigration had on the labour market, including wages, unemployment and other employment conditions…?

UCATT so far has not come across hard evidence that employing migrant workers leads to a decrease of pay of British workers. Similarly, stories that employing migrant workers drives indigenous workers out of work is only anecdotal and has not been proved for the construction sector.

Or here "Construction wage awards already agreed for the year ahead range from 4.5% for heating and ventilating operatives in October 2004 to 9.5% for building operatives in June 2005."

Still, I'm sure you will be able to back up your "facts".

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George

I'll be living in Poland for the next 12-15 years then I'll probably be living in Italy. You?

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Robin

Empirical evidence shows that the mass migration of Eastern Europeans into the country has lowered wages.
There are also migrants who are claiming benefits and housing.

steve fowler

I will not live in any part europe while the EU lives!!.

Britannist

You are quite right Robin. Not only has eastern european immigration cut salaries - it has pushed up accommodation rents and property prices (shortage of accommodation as Poles and Czechs take flats and homes which would have gone to British people) and it has increased the national social security bill. The more eastern europeans here working for less money than our workers - the more of own workers end up unemployed and on the dole.

Kevin Adamson

George ,I know you mean well in trying to defend your countrymen but the statistics you keep quoting are not what is happening on the ground.UCATT are militant Labour supporters and will release any sort of nonsense that will back up the Govenment.Having worked in construction for over 40 years I can assure you it is currently at its lowest as far as moral is concerned. There have been NO pay increses for the last 6 years .This of course is as good as a pay cut when you take inflation into account.The insistance of govenment to put all building workers on PAYE has further decreased our take home pay with the increase of national insurance payments (immigrant workers are permitted to work on the CIS tax system where National insurance is a pittance)

By the way Im staying put (for the time being)

George

You will of course be able to provide links which do not rely on hearsay and anecdotes.

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George

Ditto.

Please prove:

1. Lower salaries
2. Higher rent caused by immigration
3. Increased national welfare bill caused by immigrants

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