100,000 young Britons pushed into unemployment by immigrants

Kevin Adamson · 19-12-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Why though?
Why do the immigrant workers take the jobs your two lads don't get?

Because the companies are in league with the employment agencies to supply cheap labour for casual workers.The construction company I work for uses a Moldovan agency for labourers and a Polish one for tradesmen.

There is no advertising for jobs,if you need 2 brickies a plumber and 3 labourers tommorow its a phone call and they turn up. People turn up on site looking for work,the options are (A) Give them a job,which involves the tax office,national insurance,health and safety,employment laws,paid holidays.
Or (B) make a phone call

Kevin Adamson · 19-12-2007, 09:31 PM

By the way all is not doom and gloom on the homefront. My eldest has been doing volantary work (its why the dole wont give him any money) for the last year and the charity will be sending him for vocational training in the new year.when he gets his qualifications they will put him on wages.The Youngest is going back to college now he has realised life is not a free ride......Happy days

Besoeker · 20-12-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ranter

Because the companies are in league with the employment agencies to supply cheap labour for casual workers.

Doesn't that mean we have priced ourselves out of that job market?

Kevin Adamson · 20-12-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Doesn't that mean we have priced ourselves out of that job market?

It would seem so

david H · 21-12-2007, 06:55 AM

So you really do think it is our fault that companies want to use cheap labour?

Mikeuk · 21-12-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

I'm 20. I found it exceptionally easy to get a job.

One assumes from your posts that you are an educated man of some intellect.

Most of the people we are talking about don't fall into that category.

Robin · 21-12-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

Doesn't that mean we have priced ourselves out of that job market?

The government has taxed us out of the job market.

david H · 22-12-2007, 03:55 AM

I'm sorry to seem obtuse,robin, but how do you mean? Do you mean by National Insurance and so on? this is interesting because I hve always maintained that people can not literally refuse jobs without having their benefits suspended.

kernow · 22-12-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

I'm 20. I found it exceptionally easy to get a job.

I doubt you'll say that if you suddenly find yourself unemployed at 50+!

Robin · 22-12-2007, 05:05 PM

David H,

I mean that all the taxes we pay make us more expensive. Taxes are also inflationary.
If you had apples and I had pears we could trade by way of bartering. If a government comes along and insists that a tax had to be paid on our trade, we now need a currency. We also need to charge each other to get the wherewithal to pay the tax.Anybody else that wanted to trade with us would also be paying the tax, via us.
If that third party went to two others that did not pay tax to a government, he would not pay tax. The transaction would be cheaper. If we wanted to buy from that third party, he would be cheaper, because he does not pay tax.
The more the government wants in tax, the more expensive we would become.

21-12-2007, 06:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,394	So you really do think it is our fault that companies want to use cheap labour? __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

22-12-2007, 03:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
david H Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,394	I'm sorry to seem obtuse,robin, but how do you mean? Do you mean by National Insurance and so on? this is interesting because I hve always maintained that people can not literally refuse jobs without having their benefits suspended. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

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19-12-2007, 09:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kevin Adamson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 864 Party: UKIP	By the way all is not doom and gloom on the homefront. My eldest has been doing volantary work (its why the dole wont give him any money) for the last year and the charity will be sending him for vocational training in the new year.when he gets his qualifications they will put him on wages.The Youngest is going back to college now he has realised life is not a free ride......Happy days

22-12-2007, 05:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 759	David H, I mean that all the taxes we pay make us more expensive. Taxes are also inflationary. If you had apples and I had pears we could trade by way of bartering. If a government comes along and insists that a tax had to be paid on our trade, we now need a currency. We also need to charge each other to get the wherewithal to pay the tax.Anybody else that wanted to trade with us would also be paying the tax, via us. If that third party went to two others that did not pay tax to a government, he would not pay tax. The transaction would be cheaper. If we wanted to buy from that third party, he would be cheaper, because he does not pay tax. The more the government wants in tax, the more expensive we would become.