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Old 27-10-2007, 02:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Please, do drop the hostility.

The BNP are a radical party and arguably the only party willing to address the the extinction of the British peoples and their culture. Naturally this concerns many people and hence the fact the BNP are a major topic of conversation.

You know I was very close to joining UKIP. I tried online a year or so ago and realised I hadn't brought my Switch card to work - I was very fortunate.
I would personally submit that people who think the BNP aren't a bunch of racist bullies are kidding themselves.

You don't need to be a member of the BNP or have government backing to believe in British values.

The most important thing is that we move to a completely meritocratic society, and get rid of all the 'positive discrimination' rubbish. I personally would not support the BNP's repatriation policy. Sure, deport foreigners who break the law, but don't punish those who are here legally and don't cause anyone any harm.
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Old 27-10-2007, 03:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I would personally submit that people who think the BNP aren't a bunch of racist bullies are kidding themselves.

You don't need to be a member of the BNP or have government backing to believe in British values.

The most important thing is that we move to a completely meritocratic society, and get rid of all the 'positive discrimination' rubbish. I personally would not support the BNP's repatriation policy. Sure, deport foreigners who break the law, but don't punish those who are here legally and don't cause anyone any harm.
Then Mr UKIP we are forced to disagree. You see the problems with mass-immigration aren't happening now, but having lived in multi-cultural areas I believe they are inevitable.

We will, IMHO, see a balkanised Britain, one that under the right conditions will lead to 'Rivers of Blood'. Of course I can't substantiate this with facts, only observations and anecdotal evidence.

Good Luck. I'm going to leave if things don't start happening in the next few years - if white, Christians can't live side by side in Northern Ireland I don't know what hope you have, most immigrants I have known despise much of what is British.
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Old 27-10-2007, 03:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The most important thing is that we move to a completely meritocratic society, and get rid of all the 'positive discrimination' rubbish. I personally would not support the BNP's repatriation policy. Sure, deport foreigners who break the law, but don't punish those who are here legally and don't cause anyone any harm.
Do you know what the repatriation policy is? It's been on the books for years. They would just expand it. No forced repatriation, other than for criminals.
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Old 28-10-2007, 10:17 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Oh, and in response to bnpforme and tara,

I don't believe in stopping all immigration to this Country, but rather believe in dealing with people on an individual basis AS they commit crimes, not tarring whole groups with the same brush of people because of the actions of a few.

Yes, some immigrants commit crime, but let's not forget that Brits do too. Those who do come here and commit crimes should obviously have their right to stay revoked.
Over 11,000 of the 81,000 prison population are foreign born. That's 1 in 8 mate!!! They are the ones that have been caught and sent down. What about the rest who are yet to be caught or continue to get off in light of our incompetant justice system?

Why would any logical person want to import trouble. Stop immigration temporarily, remove all foreign born convicts and then put extremely tight controls on any future immigration. Then our departments may have more time to deal with the British crims properly.

Sort out what you can control first.

I have to say the Utopia you hope for ModernUKIP can and will never happen if we carry on this way. I am alarmed by your attitude to others that raise clear concerns about the effects that immigration has had on society as a whole. Enough I say. There's been too many liberal leftist moonbats trying close down the debate that we should be having, shouting people down and frankly becoming rather insulting only proves that BNPForme and Tara may be on to something and you just refuse to admit it.

If you don't like it tough. But you are sounding too much like a NuLab lover. It's time to admit that the multiculturalism experiment has failed miserably and it is time to start cleaning up the mess.

The UKIP has no chance unless as a party they start trying to address these issues instead of painting over the problem with cheap emulsion like a tight arsed landlord.

Join the debate instead of trying to drown people out.
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Oh, and in response to bnpforme and tara,

I don't believe in stopping all immigration to this Country, but rather believe in dealing with people on an individual basis AS they commit crimes, not tarring whole groups with the same brush of people because of the actions of a few.

Yes, some immigrants commit crime, but let's not forget that Brits do too. Those who do come here and commit crimes should obviously have their right to stay revoked.
Precisely and that is the view of most senisible people, but of course the evil BNP and their weak minded supporters dont wish to know about that, it suits them to tar these groups with the same brush. Steroyping in the way they do is very irresponsible.
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Of course, British people don't commit crime, do they?

I'd rather have a lot of the Eastern European folk I've met over here than the chavs and 'White trash' that dominate council estates.

Indians are well renowned for holding higher moral standards and worth ethics than native people too.
Very true, well said!
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Good post ModernUKIP,I agree with what you say in it.
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Another thing,I think if a reliable survey was done on the chavs, a bunch would turn out to be nazi party members or activists.

Too much time on their hands,make them work and contribute to the whole of society in this country.
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Of course, British people don't commit crime, do they?

I'd rather have a lot of the Eastern European folk I've met over here than the chavs and 'White trash' that dominate council estates.

Indians are well renowned for holding higher moral standards and worth ethics than native people too.
I'd like to correct an earlier mistake. In my post above, I incorrectly stated 'worth ethics' when I meant 'work ethics'.
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Another thing,I think if a reliable survey was done on the chavs, a bunch would turn out to be nazi party members or activists.

Too much time on their hands,make them work and contribute to the whole of society in this country.

Totally agree with that.
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