rjt

I tell you are playing the race card because you seem to link every problem in this country to imigration when clearly it is only one of many problems.

I think you will find that the langauge I use in my postings is far less harsh compared to what I say who support the BNP openly on this forum and the langauge I use to describe the BNP in general. However I would never seek to deny you free speach. The electorate as a whole will decide these matters.

And I certainly would say it to your face.

I live in Aldershot that is a town with a high imigrant population so again you are wrong. I have repeatedly stated on this forum that I beleive multiculturalism to be a failure so again you are wrong. I visit London on a rugular basis too.

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Tara

I do not link every problem in this country with immigration I actually link it with the New World Order who are responsible for the current immigration problem amongst many other things, you would do well to read up on it instead of wasting time singing in a church choir you wet blanket.

No you would never seek to deny me free speech you just follow me around like a stink bomb trying to bully me into silence. Just check out the poll results on this thread to see that you are in a minority with your liberalism..

UKIP adopts BNP policy on Asylum Seekers. Good idea?

I don't see you going in there all guns blazing probably because you know you would get your pathetic ass kicked like Anthony has. Even Kernow who couldn't fight his way out of a carrier bag has bigger testicles than you and I don't give a fig if you visit London I live it in and know more than you on the goings on in this city so I would put a sock in it if I were you.

rjt

I was not aware I had to reply to every thread in the forum Tara I do have a life just as you do! ANd what has UKIP and BNP policy has got to do with me as I am not a member of either. I dont see you contributing to threads about the current state of the Opinon Polls or offering much in the way of contibution about health, education and transport but I dont go banging on about it.

I have no idea about the size of Kernows testicles what I can tell you is that he and I have quite a few heated disagrements not least on capitial punishment but niether of us take it so personally.

And as I beleive in free speach I will not put a sock in it as you so charmingly put it.

I should think the majority of forum members are well used to being in a minority at the last General election most of us I would suspect voted for partys who scored well under 5% of the vote! We will see at the next General Election who is right and I will be the first to acknoledge my error to you.


Imigration is a serious problem in this country no doubt about it but you should thank your lucky stars you live in a dmeocracy so you can express your views and get change via the ballet box, perhaps if you prefer a change of scenary I can recomend Zimbabwe to you. You would know what real hardship was then as you would be beaten and raped if you spoke out against Mugabe and his murderous regime. So if you think I am having a go at you I suggest you go out there and experience something called reality. I would never seek to silence you and resent that implication.

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Tara

No you just single me out for your replies whenever there is an immigration thread. Anyway, we both know the real reason and that is that you would get your ass kicked.

It was you that started dishing out the insults and getting personal not me.

So why are you always defending it??

I not so long ago highly recommended the Notting Hill Carnival for a dose of reality but you pooped your pants and said it wasn't your scene, haha you are so full of faeces it's a joke. Go to hell you pathetic traitor.

rjt

I would love to know what you edited out of that post after that!

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rjt

I wonder how such a figure would be decided.


Would you kick out for instance

1) An Asian Woman aged 48 who works 6 days a week in a bank, pays her taxes on time has never broken the law and lives with her 33 year old boyfriend

2) A 61 year old priest from Zimbabwe who had to flee the Mugabe regime who preaches the word of God devoutly and provides support to a parish of over 25000 people regardless of there demomination.

3) A 22 year old Polish girl who has left her family behind and works from 8am-8pm cleaning other peoples toilets, who pays her taxes, is making an effort to learn our langauge.

4) A ugandian couple who had to flee the Amin regime in fear of their lives who have opened up a business bringing vital income to the community.

5) A Ugandian refugee who like the couple above had to get out ofhis own country and has worked hard enough to become Archbishop of York and is at times the one voice of sanity in the Church of England.

6) A muslim woman who came to this country 25 years ago trained as a nurse and has run numerous care homes providing high quality care for severley disabled adults.

7) A lady from Thialand who fell in love with an Englishman and has made a life here with him and had his child.

8) A west Indian family who settled here before I was born whose children have been raised here and who have a badly disabled son.

9) A South African Man who has come into this country works two jobs one of which is his own catering business which caters for Weddings and whose business has brought joy to many peoples lives.

10) A woman from the Republic of Ireland who had to come here in fear of her life because she had the courage to speak out agianst the butchery of Gerry Adams and the IRA.

By your calculations 9 have to go, which one is staying?

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Smidgey

1901-1911: Increased from 38,328 to 42,138

Compared to now:

1991-2001: Increased from 57,808 to 59,009

The statistics are in millions.

There are many other periods during the last century when the rate of growth, in terms of per capita and in terms of the volume has been larger than it currently is.

This, of course, says nothing for the lack of space. Where I live, there is plenty of room - this may not be the case elsewhere.

Britannist

Smidgey: The difference between the two sets of figures (in your posting number seventeen to this thread, above) is that in the first the rate of growth was not due to immigration - and the second set of figures immigration is responsible for at least 80% of the growth (as confirmed by Migrationwatch).

Smidgey

Indeed, I agree.

But I do not see the difference.

Either way we are still breeding a society that relies on welfare more and more and less on hard work and wealth creation.

Other countries (such as America) have had huge rates of immigration compared to us (If I remember correctly it was in the 90 percentile in the same period when ours was a 17% increase). America is built on immigration and it has not harmed it. The two concerns over immigration into the UK are:

1) The welfare state.
2) Space.

The first, in my opinion, is a problem with welfare, not immigration. The second is a problem with immigration. If Britain had the space (like the USA), had a free market and had no welfare state, I would support much freer immigration policy, since there would be no freeloaders.

John Cooper

I agree with a lot of what you say but immigration does cause property prices to rise. I used to live in a flat, I rented rooms to lodgers all immigrants and moved up the ladder. No immigrants, no lodgers and I would have not been able to afford so much for my house.