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Old 14-10-2007, 04:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Before anyone suggests it, I am not a BNP supporter. Why are people so afraid to speak the truth about the possible future demographics of this country?
I don't get people like you. You see the same problems on the horizon I see, but you just want to 'speak' about it, and not support the only party that woud do something to stop it. Why? Even if (which I don't believe for one split second) the BNP were as bad as the media suggests, it would still be a better option than letting out children be a minority and subject to tribal racism on a scale seen today in South Africa and Zimbabwe. Surely even an NF policy of forced repatriation would be better than that (and I am not advocating that - just the encouragement of voluntary repatriation, which was a Labour and Conservative policy, before anyone accuses me of promoting BNP policy - actually people do that every time they suggest we need to leave the EU - our mods need to be more specific).
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Old 14-10-2007, 05:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The BNP are liars for a start. Check out the London BNP's coverage of the UKIP conference, lies from start to finish.

Anyone who was there the morning the BNP were handing out their filth will confirm that the actual morning was very different to what the BNP portray.
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I don't get people like you. You see the same problems on the horizon I see, but you just want to 'speak' about it, and not support the only party that woud do something to stop it. Why? Even if (which I don't believe for one split second) the BNP were as bad as the media suggests, it would still be a better option than letting out children be a minority and subject to tribal racism on a scale seen today in South Africa and Zimbabwe. Surely even an NF policy of forced repatriation would be better than that (and I am not advocating that - just the encouragement of voluntary repatriation, which was a Labour and Conservative policy, before anyone accuses me of promoting BNP policy - actually people do that every time they suggest we need to leave the EU - our mods need to be more specific).
Presumably, if the UK left the EU - the EU citizens who lived and worked here would have to apply for permit to do either - a miserly attitude towards this would presumably have the desired effect. Cameron has covered those from elsewhere.
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The BNP are liars for a start. Check out the London BNP's coverage of the UKIP conference, lies from start to finish.

Anyone who was there the morning the BNP were handing out their filth will confirm that the actual morning was very different to what the BNP portray.
Presumably though MU, you don't see that there is a demographic catastrophe on our hands, as PC Madness does, and therefore it doesn't surprise me that you don't support them. But it does surprise me that PCM doesn't, since putting up with a few liars (if indeed that is the case) is far preferable to putting up with alot of liars (Labours, Cons, Brussels etc) and still having a catastrophe.
BTW, I did read the BNP account of the conference, and how must people were very receptive apart from a few rough young-'uns. Is that not the case?
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Presumably though MU, you don't see that there is a demographic catastrophe on our hands, as PC Madness does, and therefore it doesn't surprise me that you don't support them. But it does surprise me that PCM doesn't, since putting up with a few liars (if indeed that is the case) is far preferable to putting up with alot of liars (Labours, Cons, Brussels etc) and still having a catastrophe.
BTW, I did read the BNP account of the conference, and how must people were very receptive apart from a few rough young-'uns. Is that not the case?
No, that is certainly not the case. I heard the BNP material mostly referred to as toilet paper and if anything, the 'rough young-uns' were engaged in polite debate with the BNP representatives. There was nothing thuggish about it at all.
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No, that is certainly not the case. I heard the BNP material mostly referred to as toilet paper and if anything, the 'rough young-uns' were engaged in polite debate with the BNP representatives. There was nothing thuggish about it at all.
That's certainly different from the version on the London website. I don't know who to believe, but I know this - the BNP right now is the only hope we have of keeping our children a demographic majority in their own country.
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So then why are MI5 tracking thousands of plots at any given time? And if you agree their present strategy is working, what do you propose to stop them? Civic lessons at school?
In answer to your question.......
There is a minimal risk of terrorism from "islamic extremists" in Britain.

Any involvement of MI5 agents is probably a cover for the reality of the situation.

Most of the terrorism is government sponsored or even worse(as in 9/11 and 7/7), performed by the government.

You may (like I did at first) think this is fantasy land, but once you look at the solid evidence and understand what the government stand to gain(i.e we need to take your freedom to protect your freedom) it makes total sense.

Take 9/11 for example (I won't cover the top 40 reasons they're in a spearate post) they needed it, to pass the patriot act, which they had already drafted before the attack.

Basically by frightening people with the threat of a foney enemy(in this case OBL and "radical" islam) they can fool and surveil people into submission on "national security" reasons.

Yes there are some islamic fundamentalists but often they are sponsored by the government to perform terrorist attacks - just look at Al-CIA-da fighting Iran at the moment.......

If you haven't already done so, I would recommend you watch "terrorstorm" and "loose change" on youtube.
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I would much rather see a multiracial UK where the population is 10/25/50%+ black/mixed race and is liberated from the EU, is well-educated, democratic and free and is proud of being British and Britain's values, than see an all-white nation that is either a forever locked in member of the EU, with no concept of British values, freedoms and liberties or is an bleak oppressive BNP run state.

I see British identity as a state of mind.
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In answer to your question.......
There is a minimal risk of terrorism from "islamic extremists" in Britain.

Any involvement of MI5 agents is probably a cover for the reality of the situation.

Most of the terrorism is government sponsored or even worse(as in 9/11 and 7/7), performed by the government.

You may (like I did at first) think this is fantasy land, but once you look at the solid evidence and understand what the government stand to gain(i.e we need to take your freedom to protect your freedom) it makes total sense.

Take 9/11 for example (I won't cover the top 40 reasons they're in a spearate post) they needed it, to pass the patriot act, which they had already drafted before the attack.

Basically by frightening people with the threat of a foney enemy(in this case OBL and "radical" islam) they can fool and surveil people into submission on "national security" reasons.

Yes there are some islamic fundamentalists but often they are sponsored by the government to perform terrorist attacks - just look at Al-CIA-da fighting Iran at the moment.......

If you haven't already done so, I would recommend you watch "terrorstorm" and "loose change" on youtube.
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I would much rather see a multiracial UK where the population is 10/25/50%+ black/mixed race and is liberated from the EU, is well-educated, democratic and free and is proud of being British and Britain's values, than see an all-white nation that is either a forever locked in member of the EU, with no concept of British values, freedoms and liberties or is an bleak oppressive BNP run state.

I see British identity as a state of mind.
Yes, a very naive position. BTW, do you say 'bleak oppresive BNP run state' with the knowledge of their commitment to our Act of Settlement, citizen-initiated referenda, and decentralisation of power to local level, or without that knowledge?
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