The Guvnah

Yep I'd be very interested to hear a precis of that or a pdf setting out its form and rationale. I am, as Prince Charles; all ears!

Smidgey

I'm pretty sure he doesn't.

I'm sure he argued for a cultural change, not for a change in any law.

The Guvnah

Well I'm not a liberal and I do require that muslims and any other residents in the UK conform to OUR system. To do otherwise is to invite the creation of a 'state within a state' which besides being constitutionaly illegal just doesn't work.

"Why impose my morality/way of life on them...?"

Well for one I consider our system of social organisation immeasurably preferable and their version immeasurably worse. I wouldn't FORCE it upon anybody but observance of OUR culture and body of law would be a pre-condition of entry and continued residence thereafter.

"Are you so insecure in your own culture that you feel the need to force it down other peoples throats?"

A cheap and predictable shot, for your information, yes I am very secure both in and with my culture and like all good things I would rather like to preserve it (and if possible ADVANCE IT YET FURTHER) so that my son and his children can benefit from the culture that gave so much to the world. But it has nothing to do with the issue which is one of demographics pure and simple. i'm going to repeat myself here but the culture of a nation is defined by its demographic composition.

"We've all got to follow the same laws..."

Would that that were the case but that's not possible in an egalitarian, multi-cultural society is it, nor is it what is proposed by any of the parties other than the BNP. Shari'a cannot sit alongside the UK constitutional or legal system. In order for that to happen we would have to consent to the wholesale shredding of most of our defining constitutional body of law. Why would we want to do that? And why is it always we who must adapt?
Once again, at the risk of repetition, the laws of a nation (being an expression and a reference of its culture) are defined by its demographic.

"...but those laws should be drawn so as to leave room for people to live their own lives the way they please,"

Laws do the exact opposite, they restrict people, that is all they ever do, can't you understand this? The statement is admission that a multi-cultural society must be maintained by legislation. This is quite true. Unfortunately we neither want nor need more law. For God's sake just leave us alone!

"...so long as they don't harm others."

And what if they do harm others? What would YOU do if such was found to be the case? Whilst you seem very keen to berate the BNP for its history (not even its track record) you seem to have no problem disregarding the 1400 year documented track record of the bloodsoaked rise of islam.

Nope still not convinced.

Like The Roman

Yes. I'm very insecure, I feel my culture and the Anglo-Saxon people are in danger. I'm a liberal on a global scale - they are welcome to follow their faith, but I would rather they did so in an Islamic state, especially if following their faith means issuing fatwahs, suppressing free speech and blowing up buses.

The demographics are changing and see no signs of abating, on the contrary, they are increasing and will continue to do so exponentially...yes, I am insecure, I´m considering emigrating because I don't think in a few generations, when I am old, I will belong here.

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Millennium3

I suppose there is another way of looking at the issue - why would we want individuals from other nations to settle here? I suspect that in cases other than persecution - the vast majority are economic migrants, as previously mentioned. Their migration is not because of some great love of Britain or the British - beyond being a soft touch.

For_England

So we can have a cohesive society once again perhaps? Don't you think we should have at least been asked, or do you believe in the rule of the elite?


Interesting, you have resorted to an inverted-racist presumption that somehow white, western culture is superior in strength to all the other cultures we are being invaded with, so that ours will remain even if that culture becomes a minority with no government and no homeland. Cultures can be destroyed, and but never before have so many apologists for cultural destruction arisen from within the ranks.

Westcountryman

Why do they want to impose theirs on us? How long until we're all under Sharia Law?

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Millennium3

I would ask again, why would want any economic migrants coming to Britain when there are so many inactive Brits?

For_England

Have you read 'The God Delusion'? His 'cultural' change involves removing children from non-secular parents - I wouldn't be surprised if your 'liberalism' agreed with him.

Tom Wilde

If we were talking about Scottish Highland Gaelic culture I might understand your fears. However, let's take a look at whether our culture is under threat. Well, the English language is the second or third most spoken language in the world. It is spoken as the first language in at least six or seven major countries and as an official second language in several dozen more. It is the main language of the internet, of air traffic control worldwide and, by and large, of international diplomacy. Our various national sports in Britain have spread to be the most popular games in dozens of countries - soccer, rugby, cricket. Other aspects of our culture, our literature and way of life remain hugely influential worldwide.

Apart from a few nutters, I don't think they do. How long until we are all under Sharia law? Well, let's see. Muslims constitute about 3% of the UK population. The majority of those Muslims would be horrified to be under sharia law. So say 0.5-1% of the UK's population would actually like to see Sharia law in Britain? And mass immigration of Muslims ended many years ago, apart from the recent waves of refugees from our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so the Muslim population is increasing only slowly, if at all. Therefore the answer to your question is "never"!