Muslim Checkout Staff Get An Alcohol Opt-Out Clause

Tom Wilde · 03-10-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tara

Oh dear... go back to sleep.

It's okay - I just wondered if you had a coherent answer. Apparently not.

Besoeker · 06-10-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Sheldon

I also read this story in the Sunday Times and the article went on to mention that a spokesman for the MCB-Muslim Council of Britain-derided the actions of the supermarket staff. IIRC he said their religion bans drinking of alcohol,not handling/selling it. Otherwise, just think how much many small late-night shops-usually owned and managed by Asians-would lose in revenue if handling alcohol was strictly Verboten.
This sort of story does help to sell newspapers.

Phil
I have a notion that the small shops you mention are run by Asian Indians who may not be Muslim. Just a thought.

In my opinion, anyone who objects to alcohol to should not seek employment where part of their duty may be to handle/sell it.

Hartlepool · 06-10-2007, 06:41 PM

Perhaps other religions at Sainsburies should refuse to handle Halal products?

Another thing.Muzzers handle toilet paper when serving in stores but they don't use it in the toilet do they?

C_steam · 06-10-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Perhaps other religions at Sainsburies should refuse to handle Halal products?

Another thing.Muzzers handle toilet paper when serving in stores but they don't use it in the toilet do they?

words fail me.

For_England · 06-10-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

Perhaps other religions at Sainsburies should refuse to handle Halal products?

Another thing.Muzzers handle toilet paper when serving in stores but they don't use it in the toilet do they?

Are you sure you are in the right party?

For_England · 06-10-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

words fail me.

If you don't believe him, perhaps you'll offer your left hand to a Muslim next time you go to shake hands?

WestBromBlogger · 06-10-2007, 07:49 PM

People have been refusing to serve the pill for years on religious grounds, do you boycott Boots? What a load of nonsense you are talking. What happened to personal freedom. Well done to Sainsburys for being a good employer.

IceDragon · 06-10-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bnpforme

If you don't believe him, perhaps you'll offer your left hand to a Muslim next time you go to shake hands?

Muslim toilet etiquette. Islamic toileting, serious business!
Aadaab of Istinjaa

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Aadaab of Istinjaa

(Istinjaa is to purify oneself after answering the call of nature.)

In the toilet, use water to purify the affected parts.

Enter the toilet with the left foot and emerge with the right foot.

Before entering the toilet recite the Masnoon du'aa.

Similarly, recite the Masnoon du'aa after having emerged.

Do not enter the toilet bare-headed.

Abstain from talking while in the toilet.

Do not cough or clear the throat unnecessarily inside the toilet.

Do not recite anything inside the toilet.

Do not take into the toilet any paper or object on which is written an Aayah of the Qur'aan, any Hadeeth, name of Allah or of an Angel, or Nabee or Saint. However, if such an item is wrapped in a cloth and kept in the pocket, then it will be permissible. Similarly, if a ta'weez is thoroughly wrapped up, it will be permissible to have it on ones person in the toilet.

It is Makrooh (detestable) to stand while urinating. However, this will be permissible for a valid reason.

When relieving oneself in the toilet, do not be entirely in the nude.

Use the left hand when cleaning yourself in the toilet. It is Makrooh to use the right hand.

Do not use cloth, writing paper, newspaper or any material the purpose of which is not for toilet use, nor any impure object for cleansing oneself in the toilet. Istinjaa should be made with soft clay-stone which is absorbent and which has cleansing properties. (It is permissible to use toilet paper.)

Do not face the Qiblah in the toilet or have the back towards the Qiblah .

When having to answer the call of nature in an open veld, etc., sit as concealed as possible and as far away from the gazes of people as possible. Do not expose yourself to others in the slightest way.

Do not relieve yourself along the road nor in the shade of a tree. People taking rest under trees will be highly inconvenienced and put to difficulty.

Do not urinate in a hole in the ground, for perhaps it is inhabited by some poisonous animals (snake, etc.) which may suddenly emerge.

Do not urinate in stagnant water, no matter how abundant it is.

Do not urinate in such a place or in such a way that urine splashes against you. Rasoolullaah sallallahu alayhi wasallam said that carelessness in this regard results in punishment in the grave.

Do not urinate in the bathroom.

When having to relieve yourself outside, do not face the sun and the moon nor against the wind.

When going into the toilet remove your ring on which there is an inscription bearing the name of Allah or of Rasoolullaah sallallahu alayhi wasallam .

rjt · 07-10-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WestBromBlogger

People have been refusing to serve the pill for years on religious grounds, do you boycott Boots? What a load of nonsense you are talking. What happened to personal freedom. Well done to Sainsburys for being a good employer.

But would they refuse to serve someone with the pill? If so sorry but they are in the wrong Job.

Besoeker · 07-10-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

But would they refuse to serve someone with the pill? If so sorry but they are in the wrong Job.

I agree. It's about the equivalent of employing say, an electrician who refuses to handle red wire because he sees it as representing a communist ideology.

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,605 Party: Free England Party	Perhaps other religions at Sainsburies should refuse to handle Halal products? Another thing.Muzzers handle toilet paper when serving in stores but they don't use it in the toilet do they?