Eric The Red

I felt like that, you couldn't feel any different if you think like I do that immigration should be stopped and a recount done on those already here, with those on benefit or with a criminal record thrown out.

I am new on here so I am just presuming what you feel and I might have got it wrong?

If so I apologise.

ETR

steve fowler

No thats fine eric let your anger out as most of us on here do and back to the talk of immigration all those who have a criminal record or shouldnt be here or who dont have the jobs skill we need should be kicked straight back out and an Australian immigration system put into place but this will not happen if we dont get out of the EU fast!!.

tara

No, don't apologise, you've got it spot on. I was so angry I couldn't even post on this thread afterwards. I thought the programme was pretty good on the whole as it tackled a lot of issues speaking a reasonable amount of truth.

They did spout the same old propaganda regarding the health service, what they forgot to mention was that thousands of our newly trained doctors and nurses cannot get jobs here and have had to seek employment abroad. Also the rubbish about British people being too lazy to work, the truth is they cannot afford to take these low paid jobs as the wages wouldn't cover basic living costs, the foreigners that take these jobs live ten or more to a house so their living costs are greatly reduced and because of our strong pound the monies they send to their home countries is worth a hell of a lot more so of course those Poles are eager to work. And the Pakistani youth saying it was due to racism that he couldn't get a job, funny how the Indians don't have the same problem finding employment!

I felt very sorry for those school children having their education stunted by having to accommodate non English speaking immigrant children and also for those people on housing waiting lists, oooh that made my blood boil!

General election soon...

Britannist

I think that you probably mean Sir Andrew Green of Migrationwatch, Eric.

Britannist

I would agree with this. Twenty years ago Channel Four - when it was totally leftwing and politically correct - would never have shown any programme which even hinted that there might be problems from immigration.

Britannist

That's a good idea. And we should then expel all those who should not be here - and their offspring too, of course.

And when we are out of the EU we can close our border to all immigrants from the EU - except those who are highly qualified; are needed to fill vacancies in areas of labour shortage and who can provide guarantees that they will leave promptly when their work permit period ends.

Britannist

The programme covered a number of points which I think alot of us who follow immigration issues are already aware.

For those who missed the programme, among the points made in it by the presenter Jon Snow were:

One in four children now born in the UK have one foreign parent.

Immigration is putting a severe strain on public services.

One in three people in London were born abroad.

Just under half of the immigrants in the UK live in London.

Somalis are the most likely immigrant group to be in a council house (43% compared to 9% of British-born people)

Immigrants can apply for a council house after six months of being here - the programme interviewed a white couple who concealed their identity and who said that they had been on the housing waiting list at Barking for 7 years. An African was then interviewed who said she got a council flat in Barking after just 2 months on the waiting list. Sir Andrew Green of Migrationwatch pointed out that one in three new households in the UK is an immigrant house. A Portuguese family in the UK were shown on the programme living in crowded accommodation and expressed the hope that they could get a council house here and invite other members of their family in Portugal to join them.

The Health Protection Agency said that it was costing the UK NHS over £60 million a year to treat people for diseases from outside europe.

The Polish Consulate said that up to one million Poles are in the UK although only a third show up on UK Government figures.

The town of Boston in Lincolnshire has up to 15, 000 immigrants (a quarter of its population) - a teacher at one school there was shown holding a "multi-cultural day". She said half of the September 2007 intake at the school she worked at would be foreign. It was pointed out that at another school in Boston, one in four pupils could not speak English.

Pakistani immigrants - the fourth-largest immigrant group in the UK - are twice as likely as British-born people to be unemployed; claiming benefits and not paying tax (this is despite the fact that they spend longer in education than British-born people). Of all immigrant groups, Pakistanis are among the most likely to own their own business.

People of Indian origin in the UK (about half of whom were born here) contribute more to the British economy and claim less than either Bangladeshi or Pakistani immigrants in the UK.

Americans are the eighth biggest immigrant group in the UK; are the best paid immigrant group in the UK and pay twice as much tax and National Insurance on avarage as the average British-born person does.

Polish and American immigrants in the UK work - on average - longer hours than British-born workers.

Nigerians are among the most qualified immigrants entering the UK.

Half of all new nurses appointed in the UK over the last decade are from overseas.

The following are quotes of comments made in the programme:

"I feel like it is a foreign place - it is not Boston anymore" - said a lady who lives in Boston, Lincolnshire.

"Enoch Powell had the right idea - what he said years ago" - said a man who lives at Boston.

"Young, fit, fertile immigrants are coming into the country" said Ann Furedi at the British Pregnancy Advisory Service (a pro-abortion organisation).

"In 2004, immigration into the UK changed forever when the UK opened up (its borders) to eastern europe" - programme presenter Jon Snow said - failing to mention that the EU is behind all this (notice his use of the word "forever" implying that the debate over UK entry into the EU is over).

"Somalis represent the worst of people's fears about immigration - alot of them are poor, under-educated and out-of-work" - claimed Jon Snow, who pointed out that one Somali had had five children since coming here.

tara

And what about all those with foreign parents who have been born and brought up in London? I should imagine they add up to one in three too. We both know the native English/British are a minority in London and have been for a long time and as for real Londoners we probably amount to one in a hundred. Just because you live in London doesn't make you a Londoner! (Dog - Horse - Stable)

That figures! I just hope the wet liberals take note of that and consider our feelings of isolation and stop rubbing salt into our wounds. Me? I'm moving out as soon as I can.

They said on the programme that 70% of both HIV and TB cases were due to immigrants but TB was eradicated from this country many years ago so cannot see how native Brits have brought about 30% unless they are refering to foreign 'British' people. As for HIV, that figure is probably correct as any STD clinic will tell you that HIV is mainly an African and homosexual problem.

I reckon it's way more than that, not to mention the other eastern Europeans here.

They're also the biggest fraudsters too.

Britannist

There must be about a million east europeans in London alone - plus more in the surrounding towns (and the rest of the country, of course).

I have read that ther are at least 10, 000 Poles in Slough and at least that number (if not more) in Reading. Hundreds more are arriving at Victoria Coach station every day.

I can't walk down any road in London these days without passing people speaking Polish or some other east european language.

tara

Polish paying the least tax as most work cash in hand and Americans paying the most along with Australians, South Africans and Northern Europeans being the ones that really benefit our economy.

Did I hear right in her saying they also have many abortions at the tax payers expense?

The Somalis are also responsible for many crimes and gang warfare with other immigrants, especially in London. Also the Somalian single mother shown in the programme said the £33,000 she received in benefits wasn't enough to take care of her and her family.