SilverFalcon

I think all that nazi stuff is rapidly draining from the scene. A lot of young people took it up because they can't find a patriotic group to support and can't find a leader who seems to care about them especially rather than about the world at large.

One must never judge anyone by anything other than their good intentions and the actions motivated by this. If they had no good intentions we would soon be able to see what they are really all about. It doesn't take long before they start their nonsense. And then there is the ever present factor.

Things are changing. People are beginning to sound more their old selves. It's good to see this happening. A kind of natural healing. One of these days they will be able to unite with confidence and pool all those good intentions to make Britain British again. It is even happening in Pakistan. The moderate leader has returned. Sanity will not be silenced. She has guts. The people have hope. It's a very good sign. Maybe soon a similar sign for our people.

david H

It is easy to see why UKIP are disintegrating. They have accepted not only the terms but most of the world view of the utopian socialists and are promotingt the views that were originated by the new left in opposition to Britain as it was. It is not justmoral cowardice though, it is a lack of imagination and a lot os selfishness because they are alright. But they are betraying their children because those brought here by the elites are doing the jobs that by virtue of inheritance should be for the next generations.
It is sad that they are left behind conceptually and have to invoke quaint concepts like "purity of race" when the other debater had not mentioned it. What Enoch warned against was "racial civil war" and if we look at what is going on around us we see a large and growing community that has begun planting bombs to kill and maim us and with massive support among its own communities. This scenario was also described recently by Rear Admiral Chris Parry in an unheeded warnng to the Government. UKIP will have to pluck up some courage and face this soon or they are unwittingly supporting it.

david H

This is the sort of left-wing opinion held by many YKIP supporters. I suspect those who accuse others of wanting "racial purity" or of being "vile Nazis" are very old because that sort of thinking died years ago: apart from on Stormfront and they are very unpopular. Or, do those who post those views on this forum get their ideas from their political allies Searchlight?

Daily Mirror - Sir Andrew Green - an apology 26/11/2007

In his column on 13 September 2007, Brian Reade compared Sir Andrew Green and Migrationwatch UK to the Nazi party and the Ku Klux Klan.
We accept that the allegations were untrue.
We sincerely regret any distress caused to Sir Andrew and have agreed to pay him damages and costs.

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Mikeuk

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Originally Posted by david H It is easy to see why UKIP are disintegrating. They have accepted not only the terms but most of the world view of the utopian socialists and are promoting the views that were originated by the new left in opposition to Britain as it was.

Of course that is not the view of many grassroots UKIP members Many - probably most - belong to the 'I'm not racist but...' brigade, while others have quasi-BNP style views while declining to support the BNP for reasons which I personally consider very valid.

At grassroots level I would suggest, David, that the outlook you describe is in a minority. As one moves up the hierarchy, however, 'liberals' become more obvious and more outspoken. They are probably still in a minority but now we find that the 'hard right' element (and there are several very senior members of UKIP whom I would put in this category) are now very reticent about speaking out, whatever their past track records.

Surrender to the Social Marxist hegemony? Yes I think that describes it.

Britannist

One or two people on this forum who claim or claimed to be in UKIP have long called for UKIP to stop addressing immigration issues. UKIP did not make immigration one of its top priority issues during the last General Election campaign (and in the period after that time) and, consequently, the party did not get as many votes as it could have done at the last General Election or as many votes as it could have done in local council elections and ward By-Elections since.

The decision of UKIP to launch its "no immigration for five years" policy a few weeks ago was a very wise one for the party to have made and it will encourage more voters to consider supporting UKIP at the next General Election and/or in the next EU Elections (and in various other electoral contests before then such as those in the capital next May).

Here in London we have thousands of immigrants arriving here every week - and the day before yesterday a leading Professor who advises the Bank of England said another lot are on the way to the UK due to declining job opportunities for east europeans in the Irish building industry. Most of these unwanted immigrants, no doubt, will end up in the London/south of England areas.

david H

Why do the Moderators allow Phil sheldon to be so foul mothed and abusive to people trying to debate with him? Mr.Sheldon are you one of the Searchlight members in UKIP?

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