TonyG

Some of your colleagues in the BNP do not agree that even someone like Sir Cliff Richard is English or British because he was born in India to ex-pat parents. They have also claimed that somewhere in his background was a 'touch of the tarbrush', although I can't find any evidence of that at all in his five previous generations. To them, he is Indian and should be lined up for repatriation.

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g hall

I would suggest that many of the "ethnic" peoples of the British Commonwealth shared the same values as the Anglo Saxon's who ruled them. These values would have been taught through schools and the church. A good example of this is the number of schools in the Indian sub continent which are modelled on British public schools. It is also true that many immigrants of West Indian extraction did send their children back to the West Indies as the great comprehensive experiment started in the 60's was causing a lot of problems to the children of these immigrants.
What are perceived as British values are shared across many peoples because of the Commonwealth.

It would also be very wise, especially if your ancestors have lived near a port, not to shout to much about repatriation YOU could be on a boat home.

Your comments are bordering on the racist which I presume is why you prefer the BNP

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For_England

Yes, well I hope they wake up and find their true home in the NF. The BNP has shifted, and has therefore prevented any new party being formed on that ground they have shifted into. It's bad enough that they have brought with them their bad image, rather than just starting again or changing their name or whatever. But I think that we need to move very quickly if we are to save the nation, and get involved with the only party whose policies will give us even a chance to get through this century in one piece. (and BTW, I am not yet a member, and unable to be involved at this point since I am an ex pat. I have consequently never even been to a meeting, which I would really like to so that I could see for myself the mixture of people it attracts).

For_England

okay, let's just step into your world for a second. Let me see ... we have Asian-English, African-English and Timbucktoo English ... so does that make me English-English? It should do, shouldn't it? Or am I deficient compared to others? It's funny how geographical designations define everyone except an English person! So it's borderline racist to suggest that the English are an ethnic group just as much as everyone else? No, I would suggest that it is racist to deny it. You would have a stronger argument if you claimed that an African (for the sake of argument) was a British-African, since 'British' can be understood as a purely civil term. But English has always been an ethnic term, and I will not pretend that I no longer have an ethnicity just so I can avoid the racism-watchers.

Also, I have a variety of reasons for believing that the BNP is the last hope for a civilised and independent Britain.

tito

If I told you I am a Welshman of direct Spanish descent what would you say?

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tito

He isn't bordering, he is far over the line. He can't tell the difference between nationality and race and he does not realise that he is not very likely to be English by his own standards.

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For_England

I don't believe there is any pure race. The article makes a good point that a nation is an organic thing. If you are accepted as Welsh by your nation, then for all practical purposes you are Welsh. I am not a thorough-bred Anglo-Saxon who has a genealogy going all the way back to Woden either. We can't micro-quantify these things, and it's a ruse when leftists use that as an argument (i.e. how do you define 'English' etc). The fact is the English are not the Welsh, and the Welsh are not French, and French are not Japanese. There are a combination of ethnic and cultural differences which make us unique. Allow the English to express their uniqueness, and to not have to share their identity with others. I want to see the great diversity of our world preserved for future generations. You apparently do not, but would prefer we all look the same and have the same zero-respect for our cultural roots and distinctiveness.

For_England

you should have waited a few more minutes, and you would have seen that the 'standards' you attribute to me are not mine. Instead you were doing the very thing I said you were doing as I was writing the very words! Also, I would like to remind you that the word 'nation' has always been an ethnic term, notwithstanding recent attempts to redefine the word. You messed up on that one I'm afraid.

For_England

Churchill was abit racist you know? Far more 'racist' than I (if indeed my views can be considered such).

For_England

I just remembered something - I recently heard a Nick Griffin interview, and in it he makes the point that the 'white' population of Britain is actually around one percent African. He then rejected the idea of a pure race.