22ANDUK

Muslims in the UK are more likely to identify strongly with Britain and have confidence in its institutions than the population as a whole, a poll suggests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6557003.stm

The survey says they are also more likely to take a positive view of living side-by-side with people of different races and religions.

The majority of Muslims do not believe the veil is a barrier to integration - unlike most of the wider population.

Westcountryman

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Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

kernow

Besides the Veil a couple other things which make "Joe Public" not too keen on integrating with Muslims. (1) The fact some of the younger British born Muslim men go to to what they consider their "Mother land", Pakistan, to learn terrorist skills so as they can kill fellow Briton's! (2) Their passion for Halal meat!

22ANDUK

I also thought some of the central tenents of Islam include loyalty to Islam first, over the loyalty to a nation (Islam considers it a Nation in some senses); once soil and land has been occupied by Muslims, it is 'sacred' and cannot be relinquished, however other land and soil can be and; Islam has a very strong political and legal elements - Sharia Law and the whole system of banking - making it hard to assimilate into Western democracy - I walked by my local HSBC the other day only to notice a large (A3) poster written solely in Arabic and Urdu. The only word's I recognised was HSBC - New Banking Initiative, which I gather is their new 'Islam-friendly' system of banking.

Anyone else feel put out by posters solely in other languages (in the UK!) ?

Mikeuk

In the light of previous surveys I find this very difficult to swallow.

Dissident Congress

I once encountered an election poster in the midlands written in some Asian language. It was either from a small party or an independent candidate targetting a particular ethnic community. A policeman told me it is 100% legal although he thinks it shouldn't be.

Many university notice boards have messages written in all sorts of foreign languages. I was once talking to the head of security at a university who wanted to ban this practice because the messages could be death warrants or inciting crime or terrorism. The university didn't agree with him because it would be an assault on the freedom of overseas students.

22ANDUK

There was a big debate once at my Uni on something similar.

The Student Marxist and Socialist Society, something long those lines, (each Soc had a board) had put a poster up supporting Hizb ut-Tahrir to be allowed to become a member of the University's accepted societies and have the NUS/Uni 'No Platform' policy gainst dropped as it was unfair to discriminate against a group just because it didn't subscribe to an organisations 'Core Beliefs'. But next to it had a poster saying 'Ban the BNP'.

A lot of ordinary, decent, hard-working people who didn't support or tolerate either group said this was hypocritical. The SMSS then accused the Union of 'institutional racism'. And in true student fashion a little 'storm in a teacup' ensued throughout the Union Commities, student media etc, of which I was a member of both (the Uni comms and media, not the BNP and Hizb ut-Tahrir!).

One rule for some, another for everyone else it seems.

tito

Funny, I wasn't aware of the standard loyalty scale.

Popeye

Anyone read the article by Melanie Phillips? Explains a lot.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1497

Britannist

Thank you for that useful link, Popeye, to Melanie's website.

Melanie is a good, strong eurosceptic.

For those who don't know (very few of you I should think), Melanie Phillips writes for the Daily Mail 8) .