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Old 15-02-2007, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default East european 'immigrants overwhelm Catholic Churches'

Today's Telegraph includes a report titled (east european) "Immigrants 'overwhelm' Catholic churches". You can read it at:

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Intresting piece, I know for example cathilic churches have found difficulty in some areas finding enough Polish speaking preists to hear conffessions.

Church of England attendences are actually holding up quite well in the face of an ever more secular society.
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I wasn't pleased to read that the Archbishop of Canterbury has signed some letter or petition against speedy replacement of Trident (the UK nuclear defence system).

I am pro-nuclear.

It is not for the Archbishop of Canterbury to get involved in specifically political matters.
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I was very suprised to hear he had done this, I support the repalcement of Trident not happily but because there is no alternative to us having a nuclear option in the current climate.
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I believe in the British nuclear deterrent but would like to see us build our own missile delivery system instead of buying Trident. In the absencee of this, I favour the Trident replacement to the existing system. As many will know, the actual nuclear weapon on the Trident missile is British-made.
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I thought that the catholic church had always been mainly immigrant just Irish as opposed to Eastern European. I don't think I have either met a Catholic who was not an immigrant or the son of immigrants (I am sure that there are some).
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I thought that the catholic church had always been mainly immigrant just Irish as opposed to Eastern European. I don't think I have either met a Catholic who was not an immigrant or the son of immigrants (I am sure that there are some).
The Roman Catholic (RC) church contains many English people including a part of the English aristocracy.

The Duke of Westminster, who owns a substantial part of London, is a staunch Roman Catholic.

Other famous English Roman Catholics (whose names don't sound very Irish to me) include Sir Edward Elgar (composer of patriotic English music) and, of course, that most famous Englishman of all - William Shakespeare.

Bill Cash, the strongly eurosceptic Conservative MP, is a Roman Catholic and regular church-goer - as is former Conservative leader and eurosceptic Iain Duncan-Smith MP.
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I thought that the catholic church had always been mainly immigrant just Irish as opposed to Eastern European. I don't think I have either met a Catholic who was not an immigrant or the son of immigrants (I am sure that there are some).
Every Catholic I know is of Irish stock.
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The English seem to have mainly advanced past religion.
It's strongest in the Third world.
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I thought that the catholic church had always been mainly immigrant just Irish as opposed to Eastern European. I don't think I have either met a Catholic who was not an immigrant or the son of immigrants (I am sure that there are some).
Every Catholic I know is of Irish stock.
Every Roman Catholic (to give us our correct denominational name) I know has no Irish origins at all.

Let's not forget that the English were originally Roman Catholics. Most of the older churches and cathedrals of England were built by Roman Catholics and attended by Roman Catholics - Canterbury, York Minster and so on.
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