Britannist

I can't agree with the above.

Just under 30 million English people are baptised into the Church of England. Most got married, or will marry, in churches. Millions of English people attend church at least once a month, research has shown (far more than the estimated 1.5 million who go to Anglican Mass weekly).

As for This England's claim that Christianity is strongest in the third world. Well, the USA - which is one of the most religious nations in the world with one of the highest proportions of its population attending church in the world - is not what I would call "third world".

David Holland

I can not believe that.

But we wanted the ability to read God's word in English not Latin.

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Britannist

So it's impossible to not to know Roman Catholics unless they are partly or wholly of Irish origin? Is that what you are suggesting?

This-England

America's underclass and bad areas make ours look the aristrocracy and country estates.

Britannist

I just don't accept that Christianity is all "third world". Some of the richest parts of the world are strongly Christian with high church attendance numbers - Bavaria and Switzlerland come to mind.

Although I very much welcome the strength of the Christian church in "third world" nations.

The Christian church is strong in rich and poor areas and in areas which are neither rich nor poor.

Recent research showed that the highest numbers of church attendance in the UK are in Liverpool (not exactly rich overall) and in Surrey (regarded as a wealthy county).

David Holland

Firstly I never wrote that.
I am saying that I find unlikely that someone living in London has never met a catholic with no Irish origins at all because of the number of people living in London with Irish heritage and the high percentage who are Catholics.
Bearing this in mind it is not surprising that the current leader of the RC in England is Cormac Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor. I wonder where his family came from ?

Anyway don't complain about immigrants in the RC - the way number of applicants for the priesthood is going you will need them soon.

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Britannist

I never wrote that I had never met a Roman Catholic with Irish origins. If you look again at what I stated (in my posting earlier in this thread) - it was that I do not know any Roman Catholic (RC) with Irish origins NOW. There is a difference between past and present tense. And I wrote in the present tense. i was referring to Roman Catholics I know now.

Just thought I would mention that he is a europhile :evil: :x and I look forward to him going (i.e. retiring as head of the Roman Catholic church of England and Wales). And apparently, I'm not the only one in the RC church who thinks this.


Where did I complain, David? I simply posted details of a newspaper report on the matter. I'm against the EU influx because - being in the EU - we can't stop it. However, once we were out of the EU, if the RC church over here wanted to bring some Polish priests over here on temporary working visas it may be acceptable.

You are making comment on things I have never written :x .