Influx from Africa on way to UK warns Home Office memo

John Connor · 30-01-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

I'd love to see Child Benefit scrapped (as I believe it to be a waste of money), but there are certain elements of this society that would never have it.

You do it so it doesn't affect the current crop. So, if we were to stop it now we'd say "in one year's time, child benefit will stop for all newborns". That way, even those who're preggers now and were expecting it will still get it, while those planning to make a career of it will have to think about a McDegree (or something).

For_England · 30-01-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Quite simply, people can have as many children as they can afford.

I'd love to see Child Benefit scrapped (as I believe it to be a waste of money), but there are certain elements of this society that would never have it.

That's funny: you forgot to answer the Guv's question.

Westcountryman · 30-01-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guvnah

Buried in a pie chart at the back of our councils Housing Strategy I learn that African immigrants (as at 2005) comprised 0.6% of the city's population but occupied 14% of the available social lets.

14%

I'll never tire of asking this question in the hope that I'll get an applicable answer one day so here goes.

Can you supply me with a working definition of "racist" GIVEN THE FACT OF OUR IMMINENT ETHNIC REPLACEMENT?

Sure.

racism

• noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.
— DERIVATIVES racist noun & adjective.

Source: AskOxford: racism

I'm curious, do you think that European immigrants and the descendants of colonists should be removed from the Americas and the rest of the world?

Vortex · 04-02-2008, 02:20 PM

Of course there are characteristics specific to each race even if they are just physical ones. I presume that makes everyone a "racist"?

Westcountryman · 04-02-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

Of course there are characteristics specific to each race even if they are just physical ones. I presume that makes everyone a "racist"?

You'll notice I put the emphasis on number 2.

mkpdavies · 05-02-2008, 08:47 AM

If we didn't have the communist set of rules in place, that steals money from the workers, to be distributed to the feckless, then having a shed load of babies wouldn't be an option. That goes for people coming here and the chav nation we already have here.

Fix the root of the problem, not the symptoms.

cassie · 08-02-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Sure.

racism

• noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.
— DERIVATIVES racist noun & adjective.

Source: AskOxford: racism

I'm curious, do you think that European immigrants and the descendants of colonists should be removed from the Americas and the rest of the world?

1 This is not 'racism' as currently understood. It is a statement of the obvious. Different races can have different skin colours and facial characteristics for a start. Therefore, mere reference to racial differences is not of itself racist.

2 Discrimination by reason of race - whether in favour of or against - is racism.

3 Derogatory or insulting remarks about race is racist.

4 Harassment by reason of race is racism.

It's high time people stopped shouting 'racist' or 'racism' merely on account of references to race or origin.

Reverting to the posting which gave rise to this subject, 0.6% of a 'social group' being allocated 14% of housing does on the face of it appear to be discrimination - discrimination in favour in this case. Logically, this must mean discrimination against others - non-Africans! So that's alright then!

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mkpdavies · 08-02-2008, 06:51 PM

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noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race.

That makes me a racist then.

For_England · 08-02-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eurosceptic Atlanticist

Sure.

racism

• noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.
— DERIVATIVES racist noun & adjective.

Source: AskOxford: racism

That seems to be a very unworkable definition to me. How many multicultists are more than happy to say 'white men can't jump', or even to attribute a greater capability for evil to heterosexual white males? But more interestingly, does that make me a racist, since I'm a nationalist. Is wanting an England for the English racist, if I support the right of every nation to a homeland? That's not supremacy - I support Japan for the Japanese and Tibet for the Tibetans as well. come to think of it, there was an Africa for the Africans movement a century ago - was that racist too? And can it be called 'racist', since I don't want Britain overrun by non-native whites either? But if I'm racist, then in fact it's not I who am racist, but those who call me racist. Why? Because these same leftists are quite happy to work wtih the PLO - presumably they are not 'racist', even though they want a national home for their people. They are happy to praise Nelson Mandela. Obama Barak doesn't suffer anything, despite being a member of a church linked with black supremism. So obviously, even amongst the anti-racist left, it's ok to have a national homeland for your ethnic people - unless you are white. Who is the real racist? At least the libertarian on here are consistent in at least pretending to be colour-blind towards both whites and non-whites, though I don't think any sane person could believe that a society can be run on a ideological or civil basis alone - certainly not when things hit the fan economically and otherwise.

cassie · 09-02-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by For_England

That seems to be a very unworkable definition to me. How many multiculturists are more than happy to say 'white men can't jump', or even to attribute a greater capability for evil to heterosexual white males? But more interestingly, does that make me a racist, since I'm a nationalist. Is wanting an England for the English racist, if I support the right of every nation to a homeland? That's not supremacy - I support Japan for the Japanese and Tibet for the Tibetans as well. come to think of it, there was an Africa for the Africans movement a century ago - was that racist too? And can it be called 'racist', since I don't want Britain overrun by non-native whites either? But if I'm racist, then in fact it's not I who am racist, but those who call me racist. Why? Because these same leftists are quite happy to work with the PLO - presumably they are not 'racist', even though they want a national home for their people. They are happy to praise Nelson Mandela. Obama Barak doesn't suffer anything, despite being a member of a church linked with black supremacism. So obviously, even amongst the anti-racist left, it's ok to have a national homeland for your ethnic people - unless you are white. Who is the real racist? At least the libertarian on here are consistent in at least pretending to be colour-blind towards both whites and non-whites, though I don't think any sane person could believe that a society can be run on a ideological or civil basis alone - certainly not when things hit the fan economically and otherwise.

I'm afraid you haven't got the hang of it Old Chap!

You'll have to go on a re-indoctrination course.

Racism is solely a characteristic of whites, and English whites at that!

We know that non-whites are colour-blind, which is why all but two candidates (BNP & Greens) in the Southall By-Election last year were asian and brown! I can't for the life of me think why?

I see no valid reason why 'AskOxford' should be regarded as an authority just because it has 'Oxford' in its name!

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04-02-2008, 02:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vortex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 872 Party: BNP	Of course there are characteristics specific to each race even if they are just physical ones. I presume that makes everyone a "racist"?