Stefcho

Many everyday people want to know what Labour will do about THIS...
(Dispatches Programme, C4 Mon 15th Jan 2007)

Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (1 of 6)
Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (2 of 6)
Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (3 of 6)
Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (4 of 6)
Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (5 of 6)
Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (6 of 6)
The problems are as follows:

1) Only a few number of Mosques were investigated, yet all
revealed inherent intolerance and hatred towards democracy, other
religious
faiths and intolerance of women and homosexuals, etc. That is, there is
an endemic problem in UK mosques. It can no longer be claimed that
there are only a few bad apples.

2) That despite hundreds perhaps thousands of people attending these
speeches, meetings, presentations and informal discussions - NOBODY
contacted the authorities. This raises questions about how "moderate"
normal Muslims are and where their priorities lie.

3) This is not just a UK problem. The very same thing is probably
occuring throughout Europe and North America.

This requires action. It is time for an investigation and public
debate about radical Islam and why Labour has allowed it to become endemic.

-Stefcho

freedom & democracy 4

No matter what the lefties say, Islam is a threat in this country which has to be dealt with. Its not Racism, its common sense.

g hall

Perhaps Militant Islam would be a better phrase as I do know some Muslims who are horrified about what is done in their religions name

This-England

Islam seperates the world into two zones.

1. The zone of submission.
2. The zone of war.

The zone of submission is the parts of the Earth that have submited to the will of Alah.
The zone of war is places that have yet to submit to him so of course Islam is a threat to this country.

The Koran states that they have to conquer or convert us.

andypandy

It is not radical islam that is the problem, it's radical political apathy that created this whole sorry PC mess in the first place.

Tom Wilde

Rubbish. This wouldn't even be true if the mosques the journalists went to had been a random sample of those across Britain. However, I don't think the programme claimed that it was a random sample. They presumably sent undercover journalists only to mosques where they thought there would be a good chance of hearing some mad ranty sermons. Such mosques are easy to identify - they are the ones funded by Saudi Arabia.

Most folk want a quiet life. Sad, but understandable. If they do grass up the local religious fanatics, I'm sure they do it discreetly and the cops keep quiet about their informants.

Stefcho

3 mosques were investigated and there were radicalized Muslim preachers in all of them. I would say that does constitute a problem. Also two of them were the biggest mosques in the UK. and praised by many (including Jack Straw and Tony Blair) for being moderate.

I wonder if you sent journalists to Catholic Churches, Buddhist temples or Sihk Gurdawas you would catch people giving "ranty sermons" justifying homophobia, anti-Semitism, encouraging people to break UK law?

This investigation was 4 months long. That makes claims of "they were just borrowing the room" rather pathetic. Who missed the massive video projector in the lobby giving out hate-messages? All moderate Muslims that visted, apparently.

This was not a one-off sermon, such preaching is a regular event and several mosques (at least). By the way, check out the BBC website, you'll see that the whole of Europe has exploded into Islamophobia - why is that? Are Europeans suddenly becoming fascists or is Islam suddenly becoming more radical?

-Stefcho

Millennium3

Perhaps Islam should be banned as a religion except for those who will swear on the Koran that they have no wish to take or support terrorist action against Britain.

Stefcho

That's a good idea... The only problem is the Islamic concept of "taqqiya" (religious deception).
Taqqiya means it is permisable to lie if doing so will protect Islam or promote it. Most people find this concept scary, but it does explain why some Muslims are happy to say one thing to some people and the opposite to others.

Articles available on www.religionofpeace.com or www.faithfreedom.org).

-Stefcho

Millennium3

Perhaps the adherents haven't understood properly the mission of peace - particularly when they fight against each other!