WTF!!!

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 09:03 PM

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You cut off the first part where I said I was astounded that This-England thought the EDP was "sound" on protectionism and nationalisation (that is, in favour of both). I know that the EDP is very anti-immigration so that would not surprise me.

Yes.
Because I only wanted to comment on your assertion that supporting a HALT to all further Immigration was an "extremist" point of view.

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 09:05 PM

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Except that they probably wouldn't say that we should withdraw from the UN convention on human rights since they realise that refugees flee to where they feel safe.

Don't bank on that.

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:07 PM

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and the views on immigration . . . extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

58% of the public back a HALT to all further Immigration; 49% if you tell them it is a BNP policy.
Perhaps the Public are beginning to get peed off with touchy-feely politically correct politics?

Has ED given a reason?
I believe a lot of EDP'ers will support a HALT.

You cut off the first part where I said I was astounded that This-England thought the EDP was "sound" on protectionism and nationalisation (that is, in favour of both). I know that the EDP is very anti-immigration so that would not surprise me.

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So it is not me that is an extremist but you.
You have extreme pro-immigration views.

Well I suppose from your standpoint I am an pro-immigration extremist, in that I do accept the need for some immigration. I doubt that most would think that to be extreme.

If you regard people with minority views extreme then we could say yours is an extreme view.
Thats the level we get if we stand useing left wing buzz words like Nazi and Extremist.

What would you regard yourself politically out of interest?
Libertarian, Conservative, etc?

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:07 PM

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The 9% of the people/Jellyfish who changed their mind when told it was a BNP policy are the type of people who would have been shot at Dawn in World War 1.

And you call me an extremist? :shock:

Whats extreme about that?

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:09 PM

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This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.

Yes. I can believe that.

And I know that a lot of UKIP members support a HALT to all further Immigration.

On various election nights and at various political meetings ive talked to dozens of UKIP members and nearly all have been against immigration.
If you have a drink with them afterwards they views become much more vivid.

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:12 PM

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This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.

Yes. I can believe that.

And I know that a lot of UKIP members support a HALT to all further Immigration.

Except that they probably wouldn't say that we should withdraw from the UN convention on human rights since they realise that refugees flee to where they feel safe.

EDP is definitely National Socialist. Heavy bent on wrecking the economy through macroeconomic controls and very anti-foreigner.

The economy is being wrecked as we speak.
We have gone further and further in debt every year since 1978.
We have dropped from 1st in GDP per head in 1912 to around 20th now.
We have fell 10 places alone since 1979.
What assets we had where sold off by the Conservatives in the 1980's.
What sort of economic nutcase would have sold off our shares in BP and Britoil?
I want to restore our economy to number 1 possition.

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:14 PM

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This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.

Yes. I can believe that.

And I know that a lot of UKIP members support a HALT to all further Immigration.

Except that they probably wouldn't say that we should withdraw from the UN convention on human rights since they realise that refugees flee to where they feel safe.

EDP is definitely National Socialist. Heavy bent on wrecking the economy through macroeconomic controls and very anti-foreigner.

By the way im not a National Socialist I have nothing against Jews, Gypsys or Slavs and I favour Parliamentry democracy.

This-England · 08-12-2006, 09:15 PM

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Except that they probably wouldn't say that we should withdraw from the UN convention on human rights since they realise that refugees flee to where they feel safe.

Don't bank on that.

If they went to where they where safe they wouldnt cross half a dozen if not more countries to get here.

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 09:31 PM

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If they went to where they where safe they wouldnt cross half a dozen if not more countries to get here.

Absolutely.
The top-echelons of UKIP would be unwise to bury their heads in the sand over this Issue.
Esp. when you consider the EU role in the Asylum/Immigration Matter.

Internationalist · 08-12-2006, 09:31 PM

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What would you regard yourself politically out of interest?
Libertarian, Conservative, etc?

Libertarian, free market, anti-EU.

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The 9% of the people/Jellyfish who changed their mind when told it was a BNP policy are the type of people who would have been shot at Dawn in World War 1.

And you call me an extremist? :shock:

Whats extreme about that?

I took it as approving of the idea that people who change their mind should be shot at dawn.

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On various election nights and at various political meetings ive talked to dozens of UKIP members and nearly all have been against immigration.
If you have a drink with them afterwards they views become much more vivid.

People spout all sorts of rubbish when they have been drinking, yes.

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We have dropped from 1st in GDP per head in 1912 to around 20th now.

Too many years of socialism, propping up state industries, protecting Sterling, feeding the trades unions and the rest.

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I want to restore our economy to number 1 position

But your policies would make us a third world country.

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By the way im not a National Socialist I have nothing against Jews, Gypsys or Slavs and I favour Parliamentry democracy.

Glad to hear that, although I would also tend to apply the term to the combination of nationalism and socialism. By that measure you would be.

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