WTF!!!

This-England · 08-12-2006, 07:49 PM

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No need to pull out the UN just the UN Charter of Human Rights.

So have I got this right - you reject all asylum claims, irrespective of whether they are valid? Is that correct?

Yes.
Unless of course they are men of British stock from say Zimbabwe/Rhodesia.

So your policy - correct me if I'm wrong - adds up to:

- No immigration
- No asylum (unless of "British stock")
- Protectionism in place of free trade
- Nationalisation of the major industries
- Leaving NATO
- Dissolving the UK

What party would best represent your views, do you think?

The EDP come closest they are now sound on Nationalisation and Protectionism, dissolving the UK will obviously come, the jist of the immigration policy now is moving towards a complete halt if it isnt already.
NATO isnt touched on as yet nor is Crime to my disapointment.

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 08:00 PM

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Aren't all governments required under the UN Fundamental Charter on human rights to allow those claiming asylum to enter the country? Going to pull out of the UN now? Isolationist is not the word.

The solution to that one is to restore the earlier form whereby refugees are granted asylum in the FIRST safe country they reach.
If the UN doesn't like a British government reverting to the earlier practice, then a British government can tell the UN to stuff it anyway.

Internationalist · 08-12-2006, 08:29 PM

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The EDP come closest they are now sound on Nationalisation and Protectionism, dissolving the UK will obviously come, the jist of the immigration policy now is moving towards a complete halt if it isnt already.
NATO isnt touched on as yet nor is Crime to my disapointment.

These policies sound to me like a real National Socialist party. I'm astounded that you think the EDP is now "sound" (as you see it) on nationalisation and protectionism, and the views on immigration and asylum are extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

This-England · 08-12-2006, 08:36 PM

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The EDP come closest they are now sound on Nationalisation and Protectionism, dissolving the UK will obviously come, the jist of the immigration policy now is moving towards a complete halt if it isnt already.
NATO isnt touched on as yet nor is Crime to my disapointment.

These policies sound to me like a real National Socialist party. I'm astounded that you think the EDP is now "sound" (as you see it) on nationalisation and protectionism, and the views on immigration and asylum are extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

Nationalisation of certain industries and Protectionism was Conservative party policy for many years.
As for my views on immigration and asylum my views are the same as 58% of the population according to the last poll on the subject.
So it is not me that is an extremist but you.
You have extreme pro-immigration views.

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 08:42 PM

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and the views on immigration . . . extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

58% of the public back a HALT to all further Immigration; 49% if you tell them it is a BNP policy.
Perhaps the Public are beginning to get peed off with touchy-feely politically correct politics?

Has ED given a reason?
I believe a lot of EDP'ers will support a HALT.

This-England · 08-12-2006, 08:50 PM

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and the views on immigration . . . extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

58% of the public back a HALT to all further Immigration; 49% if you tell them it is a BNP policy.
Perhaps the Public are beginning to get peed off with touchy-feely politically correct politics?

Has ED given a reason?
I believe a lot of EDP'ers will support a HALT.

This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.
The 9% of the people/Jellyfish who changed their mind when told it was a BNP policy are the type of people who would have been shot at Dawn in World War 1.

Internationalist · 08-12-2006, 08:52 PM

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and the views on immigration . . . extreme IMHO.

I wonder whether the EDP would see themselves this way? Unfortunately "English Democrat" has said he is not posting until 2007. Maybe we should get him back on to give his view on these issues.

Then again, maybe not. :roll:

58% of the public back a HALT to all further Immigration; 49% if you tell them it is a BNP policy.
Perhaps the Public are beginning to get peed off with touchy-feely politically correct politics?

Has ED given a reason?
I believe a lot of EDP'ers will support a HALT.

You cut off the first part where I said I was astounded that This-England thought the EDP was "sound" on protectionism and nationalisation (that is, in favour of both). I know that the EDP is very anti-immigration so that would not surprise me.

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So it is not me that is an extremist but you.
You have extreme pro-immigration views.

Well I suppose from your standpoint I am an pro-immigration extremist, in that I do accept the need for some immigration. I doubt that most would think that to be extreme.

Internationalist · 08-12-2006, 08:53 PM

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The 9% of the people/Jellyfish who changed their mind when told it was a BNP policy are the type of people who would have been shot at Dawn in World War 1.

And you call me an extremist? :shock:

Populist Lee · 08-12-2006, 08:56 PM

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This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.

Yes. I can believe that.

And I know that a lot of UKIP members support a HALT to all further Immigration.

Soddball · 08-12-2006, 09:00 PM

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This poll was taken several months ago before a lot more anti-immigrant news so I think the figure will now be much higher.

Yes. I can believe that.

And I know that a lot of UKIP members support a HALT to all further Immigration.

Except that they probably wouldn't say that we should withdraw from the UN convention on human rights since they realise that refugees flee to where they feel safe.

EDP is definitely National Socialist. Heavy bent on wrecking the economy through macroeconomic controls and very anti-foreigner.

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