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Old 06-12-2006, 02:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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We dont need migrant workers to come to our country.
We need them even less if they claim any benefits, or are criminals.

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They cannot pay their way even if they pay all taxes and never use any of our services, go home on retirement and dont commit crimes.
They are an even bigger drain if they do claim benefits, use services, retire here or comit crimes.

Of course, we don't need them. If a country that has a population of 60 million people and 1 million unemployed(actually more than that ie the 'economically inactive') can't manage to run a decent economy using only its own people then there must be something seriously wrong with its education and training system or with its economy in general.

Mass immigration is just a convenient excuse by employers and by governments in Britain to not address the failings of our so-called education system and the lamentable failure of employers to train staff ect.
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I didn't realise that if they do work, then they get full access to every benefit and tax credit that a Brit is entitled too.

So the minimum wage they get, is suplemented by child benefits, working tax credits etc etc.

I find it very hard to see how this is net positive to the country at all. It is just another load of state reliant future Labour voters, as planned.

Your last point is totally correct. I believe it is calling changing the electorate or gerrymandering. If the Tories had any sense they would see this is what Labour is up to and use that as one of the arguments to the country to stop it but then they have been the 'stupid party' for such a long time now it is hard to break the habits of a lifetime.
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I find it very hard to see how this is net positive to the country at all. It is just another load of state reliant future Labour voters, as planned.

Your last point is totally correct. I believe it is calling changing the electorate or gerrymandering. If the Tories had any sense they would see this is what Labour is up to and use that as one of the arguments to the country to stop it.
The Tories will say nothing! Simply because they know Labour, Lib Dem and every human rights "Specialist" in the Country would be screaming "Racist" and "Dave" would blush and apologize for his "nasty" party!
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The Green party is a trojan horse for Socailist taxation. tney are all lefties if you meet them. When you consider the waste that being in teh EU causes: Jesus turned water into wine, the EU turns wine into surgical spirit; the ought to be fully agaisnt it. Strange that they are not. Similarly they oppose every road improvemnt which means less petrol is wasted, but have never said a peep about the £10,000m extension of teh loss-making French Railway extension to St Pancras. Who need trains to Brussels at 186mph anyway? Green MEPs perhaps. Greens are jusr Commies
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If a Pole worked for 2 hours per week - as long as they had a Workers Registration Document - this will get them access to Child Benefit, Child Tax Credit, Housing Benefit, Council Tax Benefit and any disability related benefits they can claim.

After 1 year of working 2 hours per week - they can then leave work and claim JobSeekers Allowance or Income Support and all other Social Security Benefits and tax credits wether they are working or not.

Many of the Poles working here are also claiming social security benefits in their homeland.

Many Poles have returned home but tax credits are still being paid into their bank accounts becasue they have nbever informed anyone they have left the country - thanks to our open border policy!
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