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Old 24-10-2006, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is Reid right to place curbs on EU workers?

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:19 GMT 14:19 UK

I’m still amazed that we happily accept the situation where hundreds of thousands of home grown working age people get paid benefits to sit at home or in the pub all day whilst relying on immigrants to fill alleged gaps in the workplace. All immigration should stop until our own unemployed are back in work. When we have no-one claiming dole we can then open our doors to immigrants who have the skills we need. Doing this would save a bundle in dole and ease pressure on housing.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:01 GMT 14:01 UK

All immigration should be completely stopped until the UK has sorted out its existing population and employment problems.
Entry and exit procedures should be set up to monitor all visitors.
Work permits should be granted only to those people with an arranged job to go into.
Illegal immigrants and illegal workers should be ejected immediately and not given leave to appeal at all.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:01 GMT 14:01 UK

Yes he's 100% right and also we need a Referendum on the EU to decide either to stay or get out.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:05 GMT 14:05 UK

YES YES YES...and he should've done it for the other countries too.

Uncontrolled imigration helps no-one.

Dan W, Lordswood, Kent, England

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:05 GMT 14:05 UK

Stop all immigration - this country is full up!

We have almost a million people on job seekers allowances. We have a youth culture that appears to be out of control. Get our own people back into work first.

We do not have the infrastructure to deal with the current population let alone any more.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:16 GMT 14:16 UK

A limit of 0 would be great. And get rid of all of the spongers who are already here too.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 12:55 GMT 13:55 UK

With over 60 million people in this county and over 1 million unemployed,water shortage, power shortage and housing shortage it's not only workers from Bulgaria & Romania that should be curbed.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:11 GMT 14:11 UK

Why just on Romanians and Bulgarians? We should have a points system similar to Australia.

At the last election, the Tories suggested putting limits on immigration, and were branded as 'racist' for their trouble.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 12:38 GMT 13:38 UK

Unemployment up to 1.7 million, the government with no idea who is in the country and caring even less, NI numbers being given out like confetti without any checks..

Do we need a curb on migrant workers? You work it out.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 12:36 GMT 13:36 UK

This small country of ours cannot take anymore. Only allow migrant workers in if we have no one qualified to do the job.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:16 GMT 14:16 UK

Stable doors slamming and horses bolting spring readily to mind.
This government has never got anything right first time and this is another example. Any idiot could have predicted that hundreds of thousands would come from Poland.
No doubt in my ind that the figure of 13000 was given in the normal spin culture of this government to put off discussions on problem topics. Now the complete u-turn.
God willing only another 3 years of these incompetents.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 12:35 GMT 13:35 UK

Yes he is right to do this. Mr Reid has learned finally that we cannot continue this open door policy. Look at the mess the country is in! We should be concentrating on getting rid of the illegal immigrants who are putting his department under enormous pressure.

Liz, Uxbridge

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 14:18 GMT 15:18 UK

What about the indegenous populations right to work. There 5.29 million people actually out of work in this country. 240000 Miners, whole communities like in myrther Tydfill were alot of people have never managed to find proper jobs. We dont want to be a nation of burger flippers and shelf stockers. We want proper jobs, we dont want our Labour market awash with cheap Labour to drive wage demands down. Its an outrage and must be stopped, we want our jobs for British residents!

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 14:26 GMT 15:26 UK

This restriction is obviously being imposed purely for the purpose of grabbing the home news headlines. It won't make a scrap of diffence because the Home Office and its agencies no longer have proper control of our borders.

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Added: Tuesday, 24 October, 2006, 13:17 GMT 14:17 UK

At last! Someone has made a tough decision. Labour were supposed to decrease public servants and cut back on bogus incapacity claimants - but these are labour voters so neither has been done. If we need these migrants we would have negative unemployment not 1 million unemployed.
I'd like to hope this starts a trend but with the Tories moving center I doubt it and as a skilled IT worker am planning my own escape - ah well get 20 fruit pickers to replace my contribution to the economy!

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What is scary is how many people believe unemployment is 1 million instead of the 5 million plus we really have
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As Liberals will discover in due course;
there will be no putting this particular Genie back into the bottle.

Looks like a halt - even if temporarily - to all further Immigration is becoming a quite popular proposal.

Reid's proposal is too little, too late.
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Reid's 'Immigration Minister' (Liam Byrne) got a real pasting tonight from Paxman on Newsnight.

On the same show was a whingeing Romanian spokeswoman complaining about how 'unfair' we are being to her country. Paxman said "why do the British people owe Romanians a living?"

Some common-sense being uttered occasionally now - though it's almost too late for this country, and particularly for the 5 million unemployed (as mentioned above) and British people working on low wages.
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How long 'til we hear that ID cards will sort the Immigration mess out again? :roll:
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What I haven`t heard much of is the complaints of the new countries against France, Germany,Spain etc!
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What I haven`t heard much of is the complaints of the new countries against France, Germany,Spain etc!
It could simply be that the UK media are holding back on such reports, as they did with the riots in Paris exactly one year ago. The riots had been underway for a week or two before receiving UK media coverage. I think the BBC were the last to report, following on from ITV. It is known that there are problems in France and Germany but the extent is not being reported in the UK.

Similarly in Spain but as many immigrants are just using Spain as the door of entry the numbers problem may not be as great so long as they keep moving through. Logically there must be a problem but not covered in the UK media. It will be interesting if people returning from holiday there start mentioning it in interviews or letters to the press?


Finally if, as appears likely, that the UK is the prefered choice immigrant destination and is known to be an easier touch then any move to make the UK 'harder' will be seen as unfair by the newer EU member countries.
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Colin McNamee,

I`ve heard that the leaders of Bulgaria and Romania are complaining about the "unfairness" of Britain in trying to restrict the flow of people from their countries coming here, but have they complained against the likes of France and Germany who have restrictions against all the workers from new member states ?
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Romanian Ambassador, newly appointed to UK, gave his first ever UK interview on the Sunday Politics Show today with Jonathan Soper.

He 'mentioned' that 1.5 million Romanians had already left and were in Spain. Doesn't appear to have any reason to complain about Spain then Soper didn't blink an eye on the numbers and moved on. Some interviewer, in the same league as Jeremy Vine and about the same weight - lite !.

Both France and Germany had the self interest common-sense to invoke the 7 year rule, I understand (?). previously so numbers already restricted. Only the UK politicans failed to understand the implications (or did they) by their open door policy. Did Blair really believe that only 13,000 immigrants would arrive from the 10 new members, reported in April 2005.

Problem isn't the EU, it is the duplicity of UK LibLab Con.
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