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    John Howard's message to the Muslims.

    If only we had a leader with the size of Balls that Howard has, transcript of his speech I recieved today from a friend down under. lucky Oz.

    Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday
    to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to
    head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream
    Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with
    Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that
    extremists would face a crackdown.

    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that
    some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did
    not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made
    by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country
    which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for
    you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are
    teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the
    Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't
    agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would
    prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country,
    which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.
    Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
    said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the
    other country.

    Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who
    did not want to accept local values should "clear off". "Basically,
    people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by
    Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically
    clear off," he said.

    Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
    saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.


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    "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.
    Take it or Leave It.
    I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
    individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we
    have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.
    However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
    'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
    our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor
    do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming
    to Australia. However, there are a few things that those who have
    recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to
    understand. This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has
    served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
    Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language
    and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over two
    centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and
    women who have sought freedom.
    We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
    Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
    Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the
    language! Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian,
    right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women,
    on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
    documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of
    our schools.
    If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the
    world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. We will
    accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you
    accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us. If the
    Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you
    should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are
    happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
    don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep
    your culture but do not force it on others.
    This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
    every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
    whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs,
    or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other
    great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.
    If you aren't happy here then LEAVE.
    We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the
    country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I
    figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will
    also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please."

    AMERICA AND CANADA..... ARE YOU LISTENING? UNITED
    KINGDOM?............ARE YOU LISTENING?


    PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND SWELL
    AND SEND OUR POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US
    BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO.........
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    Even I agree that the UK isn't the place for Sharia law.

    Look elsewhere if you want it.
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    reply to the australian address.

    This is a most exciting passage, tear to the eye material, a masterpiece !

    John howard you have made my day - respect mate !
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    I've seen the latter half of BM's post before, AFAIK.

    I'm suspicious that someone has reported correctly the first half, then added the second. After all, nowhere does it say anything like 'John Howard said....".

    Glad to be proven wrong though.

    See previous occurence (and there are more) at http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5722
    (post originator, Bluemerle, on Thu Sep 15, 2005)

    and in particular Matt's post:-
    I've seen it multiple times on this forum alone. Once for Canda, once for Australia I think someone changed it for Britain and now America too.
    Also - spotted by MarkR - http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/beamerican.html

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