Migrants - UK population 1 million higher than ONS admits

Britannist · 30-08-2006, 07:53 PM

The Daily Express reported on 30.8.2006 that the population of the UK is a million higher than the Blair-controlled Office of National Statistics (ONS) claims. Enough people have missed out (by the ONS) to fill a city one-and-a-half times the size of Birmingham, the Express stated.

The newspaper said that on 29.8.2006 the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) put the population of the UK at 61.5 million – not the 60.2 million claimed by the ONS a week earlier.

The CEBR said that the ONS based its figures on mid-2005 – but since then and through natural increase (the difference between births and deaths) the population had gone up by 375, 000.

“Poor methods” were blamed by the CEBR on the ONS for the difference in figures (and the underestimate of the population of the UK by the ONS). The CEBR said that in 2001 the census “undercounted” the UK population by 900, 000.

The figures from ONS (official Government figures) said that there were 100, 000 legal immigrants from eastern europe who have been in the UK for over a year – but the real figure is thought to be over 600, 000. The ONS did not include illegal immigrants in its population figure for the UK published in August 2006.

A spokesman for the ONS told the Express “Population estimates are complex and challenging. ONS estimates are the best currently possible.”

John Page · 30-08-2006, 09:55 PM

Well done the Express, they've been reading The Business, one of the best Sunday papers (for a little while longer).

http://tinyurl.com/g4aa3

Britannist · 31-08-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Page

Well done the Express, they've been reading The Business, one of the best Sunday papers (for a little while longer).

http://tinyurl.com/g4aa3

Yes, I've returned to buying the Daily Express fairly regularly since its owner Richard Desmond dumped Labour two or three years ago.

On the basis of your postings linking to 'Business' newspaper articles I can only agree with you, John, that it is quite cleary a very good newspaper. Isn't Andrew Neill (the presenter of 'This Week' and other political programmes) the editor? I may be wrong, but I thought the 'Business' was owned by the same group of newspapers that Mr. Andrew Neill is/has work/ed for.

John Page · 31-08-2006, 10:20 PM

It's part of the Barclay Brothers' stable, and Andrew Neill is involved in some way (managing editor?).

Recently it's been focusing more on international business stories, which are of less interest to me, and soon it's going to change into a magazine (on Thursdays, I think).

Question is, will it still have its rigorous political market economy think pieces...?

Britannist · 01-09-2006, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Page

It's part of the Barclay Brothers' stable, and Andrew Neill is involved in some way (managing editor?).

Recently it's been focusing more on international business stories, which are of less interest to me, and soon it's going to change into a magazine (on Thursdays, I think).

Question is, will it still have its rigorous political market economy think pieces...?

Pleased to read it's under the control of the Barclay Brothers - reliable eurosceptics I believe. Hope it continues printing the interesting articles you've been bringing to our attention, John.

Can you remember that awful pro-EU newspaper the disgusting europhile Robert Maxwell started up called 'The European'? I was pleased when it folded due to losses.

30-08-2006, 07:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Migrants - UK population 1 million higher than ONS admits The Daily Express reported on 30.8.2006 that the population of the UK is a million higher than the Blair-controlled Office of National Statistics (ONS) claims. Enough people have missed out (by the ONS) to fill a city one-and-a-half times the size of Birmingham, the Express stated. The newspaper said that on 29.8.2006 the Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) put the population of the UK at 61.5 million – not the 60.2 million claimed by the ONS a week earlier. The CEBR said that the ONS based its figures on mid-2005 – but since then and through natural increase (the difference between births and deaths) the population had gone up by 375, 000. “Poor methods” were blamed by the CEBR on the ONS for the difference in figures (and the underestimate of the population of the UK by the ONS). The CEBR said that in 2001 the census “undercounted” the UK population by 900, 000. The figures from ONS (official Government figures) said that there were 100, 000 legal immigrants from eastern europe who have been in the UK for over a year – but the real figure is thought to be over 600, 000. The ONS did not include illegal immigrants in its population figure for the UK published in August 2006. A spokesman for the ONS told the Express “Population estimates are complex and challenging. ONS estimates are the best currently possible.”

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30-08-2006, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	Well done the Express, they've been reading The Business, one of the best Sunday papers (for a little while longer). http://tinyurl.com/g4aa3

31-08-2006, 10:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	It's part of the Barclay Brothers' stable, and Andrew Neill is involved in some way (managing editor?). Recently it's been focusing more on international business stories, which are of less interest to me, and soon it's going to change into a magazine (on Thursdays, I think). Question is, will it still have its rigorous political market economy think pieces...?