We want more unlimited immigration says Sainsbury boss

arden forester · 02-11-2006, 06:07 PM

This organisation, Business for a New Europe, seems of the "muddled eurochange" variety!

Quote:

We support the UK’s membership of the EU and oppose withdrawal to the margins; we support positive and constructive engagement with the EU as the only sensible approach and as vital to our national interests.
We support a vision of a prosperous free-market Europe able to compete in a globalised world.
We support economic liberalisation and oppose excessive EU regulation, centralisation and red tape.
We support institutional reform, further cooperation between EU member states where it is in Britain's interests and oppose old-fashioned federalism.
We support the enlargement of the EU including Turkey, and recognise the benefits that the recent wave of enlargement have brought.

Whilst on the surface some ideas may seem OK, at least to me, they all boil down to big business getting their noses in the trough first. It isn't real reform, it isn't real change, and it doesn't address the real problems because it is vague and not specific! :shock:

What is "positive and constructive engagement with the EU"? The EU expects the UK to acquiesce at the present!
Are they opposed to red tape when it affects them or do they want individuals to be spared as well?
They oppose "old-fashioned federalism" but support "institutional reform, further cooperation between EU member states where it is in Britain's interest".

Muddle thinking! I suggest a new drawing board for Christmas!

http://www.bnegroup.org/principles/principles.htm

Britannist · 02-11-2006, 07:50 PM

[quote="arden forester"]This organisation, Business for a New Europe, seems of the "muddled eurochange" variety!

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We support the UK’s membership of the EU and oppose withdrawal to the margins...

In other words, they (BNE) are totally useless from our point of view. Thank you, Arden, for drawing our attention to this group. I've now put them on my list of europhile organisations to be opposed.

They say they oppose us withdrawing to the margins. We are, of course, by being in the EU already on the margins (in every sense including geographically). If we relied on EU trade only (we have built up a massive trading deficit with EU nations since 1972) we would have been declared bankrupt as a nation years ago. It's only our world (non-EU) trade which is keeping the UK 'afloat'.

Time to rejoin the rest of the world where its all happening - China, Japan, India, USA, Brazil, Australia, South Africa, Indonesia, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan and Canada (and at least fifty others outside the EU moving ahead in wealth and prosperity).

Robin · 06-11-2006, 07:04 PM

The reason these supermarkets are profitable is because their customers are affluent.
If their customers are impoverished by lowered wages, they wont spend so much in the shops.
If their customers are also replaced by migrant labour, which sends most of its money back to the home countries, there is a further drop.
If the immigrants also have different tastes, and use shops of other immigrants, there is a further drop.

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06-11-2006, 07:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 934	The reason these supermarkets are profitable is because their customers are affluent. If their customers are impoverished by lowered wages, they wont spend so much in the shops. If their customers are also replaced by migrant labour, which sends most of its money back to the home countries, there is a further drop. If the immigrants also have different tastes, and use shops of other immigrants, there is a further drop.