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Old 17-08-2006, 08:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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We should oppose all immigration apart from people of British descent returning home.
Rhodesians, Australians and New Zealanders for example.
So, you are proposing that immigration should be based solely on race.
No.
Based on the British Ethnic groups and their descendents.
I.E Irish, English, Scottish and Welsh.
The Concise Oxford Dictionary:
ethnic Pertaining to race, ethnological
ethnology Science of human races and their characteristics

You ARE proposing that immigration should be based solely on race.
You are merely quibbling about the description.
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An ethnic group is a human population whose members identify with each other, usually on the basis of a supposedly shared common genealogy or ancestry.
It is not a race.
A race can contain many Ethnic groups.
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Here is a list of Ethnic groups to help you understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups
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Thus British Ethnic Nationalism would allow the immigration of people of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish Ethnic groups and their descendents.
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An ethnic group is a human population whose members identify with each other, usually on the basis of a supposedly shared common genealogy or ancestry.
It is not a race.
A race can contain many Ethnic groups.
I do not regard or accept you as a authority on the definition of what is or is not a 'race' or 'ethnic group'. I can't imagine why you have the conceit to suggest otherwise, other than as the product of ignorance.

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Here is a list of Ethnic groups to help you understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups
I do not accept wikipedia as an authority on these matters, given that any idiot can alter content.

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Thus British Ethnic Nationalism would allow the immigration of people of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish Ethnic groups and their descendents.
I do not regard or accept you as a authority on the definition of what is or is not 'British Ethnic Nationalism' nor what it comprises, nor what it would allow. I can't imagine why you have the conceit to represent yourself as an authority on such matters, other than as the product of ignorance.
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These are all so Ethnic groups recognised by the British Government, UN and EU in many cases.
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These are all so Ethnic groups recognised by the British Government, UN and EU in many cases.
You can wriggle as much as you like by invoking side issues, but you are proposing that immigration should be based solely on race or, to use your cumbersome phrase, on particular 'ethnic groups'.
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These are all so Ethnic groups recognised by the British Government, UN and EU in many cases.
You can wriggle as much as you like by invoking side issues, but you are proposing that immigration should be based solely on race or, to use your cumbersome phrase, on particular 'ethnic groups'.
If it was based on race it would be open to people of German, Dutch, Polish and French stock too.
But it isnt its based on Ethnic groups.
The 4 British Ethnic groups.
It would be a very popular policy indeed.
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Thus British Ethnic Nationalism would allow the immigration of people of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish Ethnic groups and their descendents.
Am I right in thinking that if you were a man and single and eg Beyonce wanted to marry you. You would be against her coming to live here ?
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Thus British Ethnic Nationalism would allow the immigration of people of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish Ethnic groups and their descendents.
Am I right in thinking that if you were a man and single and eg Beyonce wanted to marry you. You would be against her coming to live here ?
You are dead right.
I want kids with Blond hair and Blue eyes so why would i want to marry her?
A lot of the girls i know are better looking than her anyway.
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