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    Default Billions in benefits handed out to foreigners each year.

    More than £2 BILLION in benefits are paid out to foreigners each year

    DWP fraud probe after 5,000 illegal immigrants claim £42m in handouts to which they are not entitled
    371,000 foreign nationals on out-of-work benefits
    6% of all benefit claimants are foreigners, study finds
    More than £2billion is being claimed in benefits by foreigners every year, including thousands of illegal immigrants, figures reveal.
    The Department for Work and Pensions announced a fraud investigation last night after it emerged 5,000 illegals claimed handouts worth £42million to which they are not entitled.
    Ministers acted after the first-ever study of claimants’ nationality, which found 371,000 foreign nationals are on out-of-work benefits.

    Read more: More than £2bn in benefits are paid out to foreigners each year | Mail Online

    As of February 2011, 371,000 people - out of a total of 5.5 million - claiming working-age benefits had been non-UK nationals when they first registered for a National Insurance Number
    Of these, 258,000 were from outside the European Economic Area (non-EAA)
    BBC News - Benefits being claimed by more than 370,000 migrants

    That blows the myth of the hard working immigrant straight out of the water. Any chance now of the DWP targetting immigrant scroungers and fraudsters instead of the genuinely unemployed, sick and disabled British? I doubt it.That would be racist.
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    Hands up anyone who is suprised. So that's none then.

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    370,000 Migrants on the Dole

    This is the front page lead story on on the Daily Telegraph 20th January 2012.

    The story tells us that migrants can claim unemployment benefit, housing benefit and incapacity benefit. The cost is billions of pounds a year say the Telegraph.

    Of course Damien Green the Conservative Immigration Minister blames the previous Labour government for the problems.
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    Work-related benefits were claimed by 371,000 migrants last year - the vast majority of which were legitimate, the first research of its kind has shown.

    The estimates suggest workers born abroad may be less likely to claim benefits than UK nationals.

    A look at a sample of 9,000 claimants of certain nationalities suggested 2% were illegally claiming benefits.

    Employment Minister Chris Grayling denied scaremongering and admitted the full picture was not yet clear.

    Before the coalition government came to power the nationality of benefit claimants was not recorded.

    The government matched benefit, border control and tax records from 2011 for those who came to work, study or visit.

    The first detailed "data-matching" was carried out by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), the UK Border Agency and HM Revenue and Customs.

    The research found:
    • As of February 2011, 371,000 people - out of a total of 5.5 million - claiming working-age benefits had been non-UK nationals when they first registered for a National Insurance Number. This group represented 6.4% of all claimants

    Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    • More than half of those who were foreign-born had permanently settled and become British citizens.

    A follow-up sample looked at 9,000 non-EEA nationals. It found that 98% of them could legally claim benefits because of their legal ties to the UK. Approximately 125 people were thought to have no right to claim benefits and were being investigated.

    BBC News - Migrants on work-related benefits study published
    "The estimates suggest workers born abroad may be less likely to claim benefits than UK nationals."

    Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    This research will blow many myths out of the water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    "The estimates suggest workers born abroad may be less likely to claim benefits than UK nationals."

    Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    This research will blow many myths out of the water!
    Will it?

    What myths have been blown out of the water regarding this research?

    Essentially this proves two things:

    1) Immigrants have taken jobs from people born in the UK and kept wages low.

    2) A percentage of immigrants claim benefits.

    We have a serious problem in this country and to rectify it we will have to deport many immigrants, there is no getting around it I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    "The estimates suggest workers born abroad may be less likely to claim benefits than UK nationals."

    Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    This research will blow many myths out of the water!
    Yes. The myth that the DWP publish accurate figures for a start!

    Of course the figure "Suggest " immigrants are less likely to claim benefits. Even the idiots at the DWP refuse the obvious ones who shouldn't get it.

    And it depends on what you call "UK nationals. "

    Hundreds of thousands or recent immigrants have been given UK citizenship. What we really need to know is how many people born overseas or descended from those born overseas claim benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeza View Post
    Will it?

    What myths have been blown out of the water regarding this research?

    Essentially this proves two things:

    1) Immigrants have taken jobs from people born in the UK and kept wages low.

    2) A percentage of immigrants claim benefits.

    We have a serious problem in this country and to rectify it we will have to deport many immigrants, there is no getting around it I'm afraid.
    The myth that immigrants only come to Britain for benefits is blown out of the water. When you admit a percentage of immigrants claim benefits, you choose to ignore the finding: Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    But the most pertinent question must be why are immigrants finding jobs, while opportunities for paid employment seem invisible to many of the local unwaged?

    Surely it's not that £67 a week plus housing and other benefits make life easy enough to remain jobless? Perhaps when benefits are limited to a maximum of £26,000 per family/household we might see a higher take up.

    Though it is difficult to guess how employers are going to make allowances for an individual's lack of literacy even a decade of free education couldn't instill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    The myth that immigrants only come to Britain for benefits is blown out of the water. When you admit a percentage of immigrants claim benefits, you choose to ignore the finding: Almost 17% of UK nationals were claiming working-age benefits compared with almost 7% of all those born abroad

    But the most pertinent question must be why are immigrants finding jobs, while opportunities for paid employment seem invisible to many of the local unwaged?

    Surely it's not that £67 a week plus housing and other benefits make life easy enough to remain jobless? Perhaps when benefits are limited to a maximum of £26,000 per family/household we might see a higher take up.

    Though it is difficult to guess how employers are going to make allowances for an individual's lack of literacy even a decade of free education couldn't instill.
    Considering that those born abroad (Or their families.) have paid very little into the system it's only right they should take little or nothing out. We have unemployed graduates and doctors. The vast majority of our youngsters must be far more literate in English than the thousands of immigrants who after 3 generations,still can't even speak the language properly.

    It's a very rare West Indian who can speak with a proper accent. Usually they sound like they've just got off the boat.Even the children.

    And I've told you before,immigrants find jobs because they accept slave working conditions and low pay. People like you exploit your fellow immigrants while running us British down because we refuse to cook your kebabs for £2 an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Overdere View Post
    Yes. The myth that the DWP publish accurate figures for a start!

    Of course the figure "Suggest " immigrants are less likely to claim benefits. Even the idiots at the DWP refuse the obvious ones who shouldn't get it.

    And it depends on what you call "UK nationals. "

    Hundreds of thousands or recent immigrants have been given UK citizenship. What we really need to know is how many people born overseas or descended from those born overseas claim benefits.
    The typical bleat of someone who finds authentic figures don't support their arguments.
    I'm not saying your perceptions/prejudices shouldn't be addressed, but it is difficult when you make a few unsubstantiated hiccups in individual cases the basis of your view of the whole system.

    I call any one who is a British citizen a "British" or "UK national". Where they were born seems immaterial.

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