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    Default 'Immigration has little or no impact on UK unemployment': NIESR

    A report by the National Institute of Economic and Social Research claims that immigration has little or no impact on UK unemployment. Surprise, surprise, it turns out that the NIESR is a member of a pan EU network. The EU through Schengen promotes open borders.

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    Migrants are NOT keeping Brits out of work, new study claims

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rits-work.html
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    National Institute of Economic and Social Research
    The Institute is part of the EUROFRAME network, an initiative for improved forecasting and macroeconomic analysis in the European Union. The EUROFRAME network was founded at the end of 1998 by nine independent European research institutes that combine their knowledge in providing quantitative analysis, forecasts and policy recommendations for the European Union and for national decision makers.
    http://www.niesr.ac.uk/aboutniesr2.0.php

    http://www.niesr.ac.uk/pdf/090112_164026.pdf
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    They have just been discussing this on Victoria Debyshire.
    "The whole point of the liberal revolution that gave rise to the 1960’s was to free us from somebody else’s dogma, but now the same people…are striving to impose on others a secularized religion…" Richard Bernstein

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    Of course foreigners are keeping Brits out of work.

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    And the third report on the subjectthis week says "The government's official advisers on migration say there is a link between immigration from outside the European Union and job losses among UK workers.
    The Migration Advisory Committee said there were 23 fewer UK jobs for every 100 migrants from outside the EU."

    BBC News - Immigration from outside the EU 'linked to UK jobless'

    Now I'll admit to not being a genius if someone can tell me that if the 4,600 people (net) arriving here to settle every week aren't taking jobs or benefits exactly what affect they are having? We aren't creating 4,600 new jobs a week so what are they doing? Are they all children? Are they all benefit claimants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mranthonycfc View Post
    Of course foreigners are keeping Brits out of work.
    Not necessarily. Would Brits do the freed-up jobs if all foreigners were kicked out?

    Despite the bleating that foreigners are taking Brits' jobs by old-guard reactionaries and their mimics, there are fundamental reasons why many (many, not all) Brits remain unemployed. A significant number suffer from the following disadvantages (some of which – if not corrected – make them unemployable):

    • Lack of ambition, interest in working, social skills and the ability to communicate
    • Irrelevant and poor education and training with limited reading and writing ability – sometimes verging on illiteracy, even among graduates!
    • Unwillingness to get out and search for work
    • Happy to exist on joseekers, housing benefit, child allowances, etc, despite being able to work (even though various benefits could still be available for some)

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    How patronising are those Globalists who carry out studies that claim it has no effect?
    I know they have done their best to demonise the indigenous as lazy, so they can claim that foreigners are only doing jobs Brits wont do, but with unemployment ever rising even those happy to join in on the Brit bashing (liek Postman Pat) have to be utterly deluded if they think there arent Brits willing to take many, if not all, of the jobs foreign immigrantsa are doing. Every time you see an immigrants doing ajob ina work[place where at least half the staff are Brits, then it is safe to suppose that the pay and conditons of work are not so grim that Brits cannot be found to do that job.

    The other thing that annoys me is those who claim that so long as foreign immigrants are getting minimum wage its impossible that they are undercutting Brits.

    There are still many ways they can undercut Brits by brown-nosing the employer:
    Workign like demons so that they do more in the same time.
    Not takign tea breaks and lunch breaks that they are entitled to.
    Doing 'extras' such as cleaning, which isn't part of their job contract.
    Making themselves available to do any extra overtime at the employers beck and call.
    Allowing themselves to be pushed around and do whatever the employer wants them to, even if not part of their job.
    Ignoring healtrh and safety issues.

    All these things in reality mean they are workign for lower wages, and it is what employers euphemistically describe as 'having a better attitude'.
    'Lefties' should be appalled that these things are happening, but because 'race' trumps every other concern they turn ablind eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    Not necessarily. Would Brits do the freed-up jobs if all foreigners were kicked out?

    Despite the bleating that foreigners are taking Brits' jobs by old-guard reactionaries and their mimics, there are fundamental reasons why many (many, not all) Brits remain unemployed. A significant number suffer from the following disadvantages (some of which – if not corrected – make them unemployable):

    • Lack of ambition, interest in working, social skills and the ability to communicate
    • Irrelevant and poor education and training with limited reading and writing ability – sometimes verging on illiteracy, even among graduates!
    • Unwillingness to get out and search for work
    • Happy to exist on joseekers, housing benefit, child allowances, etc, despite being able to work (even though various benefits could still be available for some)
    The 'all Brits are misfits and lazy fecks argument', once again.
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    A significant number suffer from the following disadvantages (some of which – if not corrected – make them unemployable):
    •Lack of ambition, interest in working, social skills and the ability to communicate
    •Irrelevant and poor education and training with limited reading and writing ability – sometimes verging on illiteracy, even among graduates!
    •Unwillingness to get out and search for work
    •Happy to exist on joseekers, housing benefit, child allowances, etc, despite being able to work (even though various benefits could still be available for some)
    Racist stereotyping!

    The fact that before the economic downturn there were NOt huge numbers unemployed is evidence that the people you describe ar ea very small minority.

    Most of the jobs foreigners take require few if any 'skills', many fo the foreigners are illiterate (Third World) or barely speak English (if Eastern European). They are getting the jobs NOt because they are better but because they are brownnosers! (Not surprising really, most Brits would be willing to brownnose an employer who was willing to pay them three times what they earn in Britain, or for third worlders up to ten times what they could earn in their homelands)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebirth View Post
    The 'all Brits are all misfits and lazy fecks argument', once again.
    This rascist argument is the only one they have to excuse the vast numbers of unskilled non English speaking foreigners being allowed in. However we know the real agenda.
    "The whole point of the liberal revolution that gave rise to the 1960’s was to free us from somebody else’s dogma, but now the same people…are striving to impose on others a secularized religion…" Richard Bernstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman Post View Post
    Not necessarily. Would Brits do the freed-up jobs if all foreigners were kicked out?

    Despite the bleating that foreigners are taking Brits' jobs by old-guard reactionaries and their mimics, there are fundamental reasons why many (many, not all) Brits remain unemployed. A significant number suffer from the following disadvantages (some of which – if not corrected – make them unemployable):
    • Lack of ambition, interest in working, social skills and the ability to communicate
    • Irrelevant and poor education and training with limited reading and writing ability – sometimes verging on illiteracy, even among graduates!
    • Unwillingness to get out and search for work
    • Happy to exist on joseekers, housing benefit, child allowances, etc, despite being able to work (even though various benefits could still be available for some)
    You are still spouting ther same old drivel I see. You do realise that per capita there are far more ethnic minorities unemployed than indigenous Britons? Is that because they are all even lazier?

    Foreigners are taking British jobs because they cheaper to employ and accept slave working conditions.
    This is England and .....

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