Thread: 'Immigration has little or no impact on UK unemployment': NIESR

Originally Posted by Patman Post

Not necessarily. Would Brits do the freed-up jobs if all foreigners were kicked out?

Despite the bleating that foreigners are taking Brits' jobs by old-guard reactionaries and their mimics, there are fundamental reasons why many (many, not all) Brits remain unemployed. A significant number suffer from the following disadvantages (some of which – if not corrected – make them unemployable):

• Lack of ambition, interest in working, social skills and the ability to communicate
• Irrelevant and poor education and training with limited reading and writing ability – sometimes verging on illiteracy, even among graduates!
• Unwillingness to get out and search for work
• Happy to exist on joseekers, housing benefit, child allowances, etc, despite being able to work (even though various benefits could still be available for some)

This post and probably the entire study only takes into account those who are officially unemployed. There are many jobs that used to be available to students and stay at home moms looking for a second income. These people have been hurt by immigration, but it doesn't show up on the official statistics. Seasonal farm work, cleaning, dishwashing, school dinners and various other jobs are still sought after by some Brits because of their lifestyle, but they're hard to come by these days. It's normal to see non-Brits doing these jobs all the time. This was my experience when I was a student and a mother. Even airport jobs are being over represented by foriegn nationals and this seems very foolish to me. I can't remember the last time I was served a coffee in an airport by a person without a non-British accent.

Originally Posted by alemcodon

Root Cause Analysis......

Ask WHY 5 times and you will get to the root of your problem.

UK Unemployment is high..why?

Companies dont make money...why?

Because the chinese are cheaper...why?

Because our currency is worthles...why?

Because we let the 'Market' dictate our rates...thats the root cause of unemployement....

Unemployment is high because of mass immigration. Every week almost 5,000 immigrants settle here.They all want jobs or benefits and are a drain on our economy.

The comparison with China is apt. The Chinese are cheaper because in China there are millions of workers who have to work for low wages because there is a surplus of labour - which is exactly the same situation that the hundreds of thousands of immigrants swarming ashore here are creating.

Originally Posted by Patman Post

The mask slips... It's really spoonfeeding and benefits you're after. But what really pisses you off, it seems, is that unionised workforces can no longer easily hold employers to ransom when there's a ready supply of alternative workers.

Strangely, I partly agree with your second proposition: people should be able to work as hard and long as the want (appropriate health and safety permitting) and get paid for it, although only the genuinely deserving of any background should get state benefits

I'm not after anything except justice for my countrymen.And your "alternative workers " means lower wages not justice.

Originally Posted by Patman Post

But is it still truly a Christian country? If it is, what makes it so – a tick box on a census form, Church attendance, adherence to the "ten commandments"...?

It is nominally a Christian country. We don't advocate stoning people to death and sending gays to mental hospitals.