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Originally Posted by longbow64

Yes, consumer right, I would do the same if it were all Kosher, I am sick of the rights of the minority being enforced on the majority by the left wing cultural marxists.

I am not against halal meat because it's Islamic, when in a halal only restraunt then I do as you suggest and eat fish.

I buy Halal meat every time I order from an Indian take away, and there is no problem, because in so doing I have exercised my choice as a consumer. It's taking that choice away from me by lack of information, (labelling) that I find offensive. The same goes for GM products.

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Originally Posted by alemcodon

Interesting, why do you have an issue with halaal meat? The main purpose of halaal is that you thank god for the sacrifice since he considers all of creations dear to his heart, the Quraan says, when we kill an animal for god, in comparison it’s like us losing a child….it doesn’t matter which language you say it in, if you had said god’s name when killing a chicken I would happily eat it. If you’re an atheist id understand why it’s an issue, but then again if you’re an atheist SCIENTIFICALLY death is death, and a few words of jiggery pokery doesn’t make a physical difference to the meat. Pain is nothing but an electrical signal to the brain?

but I know 99% people resent halaal meat purely because it’s from muslims, masked by accusations of barbarism – like killing a chicken is more barbaric then killing it?

We are merely just saying, ‘all praise be to god’…..how does that make it wrong or barbaric?

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I have no wish to eat meat sacrificed to, killed by methods approved by,killed by the blessing of or killed with praise given to, the barbaric, savage god you worship.

And you have no right to impose the ways of your primitive,evil and vile religion on me without my conscious and full knowing approval.

Originally Posted by alemcodon

Theres a difference between GM and halaal, GM is a physical difference, where halaal is only the utterance of 4-5 words.

I agree about descriptions, if it is halaal then it should say, and there should be a choice. I don’t dispute that. I only question the reason, maybe for you it’s about trades description (I suspect is a fib), but most people loathe halaal purely because of their hate for Islam.

The usual argument is about barbaric…but there’s no way you can argue death is more or less barbaric then death. A court doesn’t sentence murderers less for a ‘humane’ murder.

You argument would be valid if there was a physical difference in the meat, governments are more concerned about hygiene standards when it comes to meat before it meets the criteria of sellable in this country, which is the logical way to go about it. Complaining you don’t want food because someone said praise to god is just stupid and just brings out the hate for Islam in a childish way.

If a christian said praise to god before killing an animal would you have an issue eating it or buying it if it wasn’t specifically stated that this sentence was said when the animal was killed?

I don't give a toss about differences in Halal and GM, or just what is meant by Halal slaughter. I just want to be told what it is I am being invited to spend my money on. And I would have thought Muslims would welcome the chance to select meat labelled as Halal, or to reject meat not so labelled.

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Every china man is part of a Triad group, they must pay a small tax and follow their rules, these various groups usually co-operate well and impose rules on each other, even though we think they are 'gangs' and fight each other all the times, its not the case. its to protect the interest of their communities, and one of these interests is business/money, ALL shops MUST buy their supplies from particular suppliers, this is to ensure the wholesalers are succesful

Interesting and shows how racist Chinese people are, just like other foreign immigrant groups!

They squeal for anti racism and then practice racism themselves.