The Rise and Fall of the British Empire

Anthony Butcher · 08-07-2007, 08:20 PM

		The Rise and Fall of the British Empire
By Lawrence James

This work covers the history of British expansion overseas from the 16th to the 20th centuries. Narrative and analysis are interwoven with revealing eyewitness quotations to provide keen insight into the minds of those involved in conquering, settling and ruling the British Empire. Throughout, there are consistent themes: the search for profit and the moral misgivings it generated; domestic developments which made imperial expansion desirable; and the sense of national and personal destiny felt by the empire-builders. This revised edition has been updated to include the 1997 hand-over of Hong Kong.
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Baron von Lotsov · 28-08-2007, 08:47 PM

The theory that it rose and fell does run into a few problems. For example there is a so-called special relationship between the UK and America but which way around is it? Did America ask Britain to fight Iraq or did Britain ask America? (Where did Saddam originate from?) Also the same issue with World War Two. Did America volunteer to help Britain out or was it persuaded to?

Another problem is that all our industry was dismantled and at approximately the same period a lot of industry appeared in China, yet Britain condemns the Chinese over human rights officially. All our jobs in call centres have been transferred to India but you know India was central to the British Empire, but just like Hong Kong it is officially not run by the British anymore. It seems odd that we should help our opponents at our expense like this so much. This brings me to the issue of when exactly was all of this power relinquished? Also what were the Bolsheviks doing in the City of London with those Jewish bankers who loaned them all of that money to set up a 'rival' power, as seen during the Cold War?

So, did it really fall or did it just go underground?

SuperiorSteve · 29-09-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

The theory that it rose and fell does run into a few problems. For example there is a so-called special relationship between the UK and America but which way around is it? Did America ask Britain to fight Iraq or did Britain ask America? (Where did Saddam originate from?) Also the same issue with World War Two. Did America volunteer to help Britain out or was it persuaded to?

Another problem is that all our industry was dismantled and at approximately the same period a lot of industry appeared in China, yet Britain condemns the Chinese over human rights officially. All our jobs in call centres have been transferred to India but you know India was central to the British Empire, but just like Hong Kong it is officially not run by the British anymore. It seems odd that we should help our opponents at our expense like this so much. This brings me to the issue of when exactly was all of this power relinquished? Also what were the Bolsheviks doing in the City of London with those Jewish bankers who loaned them all of that money to set up a 'rival' power, as seen during the Cold War?

So, did it really fall or did it just go underground?

This sounds like conspiracy talk!!!

Baron von Lotsov · 30-09-2007, 07:03 PM

It's just my conclusion after a few years of research on the subject. I'm just reading a book at the moment on the British Empire, published in 1890, which pretty much confirms what actually took place in our history and backs up the above. It's simply inconceivable that the huge wealth generated up to this time in history, estimated at £200 billion suddenly failed to have any further influence. Sure it got reinvested and the East India Company had served its purpose but it never declined, it just grew and grew. From import/export it was then channelled into industry and railroads and many other things all round the world. These new businesses made so much more money that the company that financed them fell into insignificance and was closed down as a liability. Loaning money to governments was a far safer business to be in.

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Baron von Lotsov Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 718	The theory that it rose and fell does run into a few problems. For example there is a so-called special relationship between the UK and America but which way around is it? Did America ask Britain to fight Iraq or did Britain ask America? (Where did Saddam originate from?) Also the same issue with World War Two. Did America volunteer to help Britain out or was it persuaded to? Another problem is that all our industry was dismantled and at approximately the same period a lot of industry appeared in China, yet Britain condemns the Chinese over human rights officially. All our jobs in call centres have been transferred to India but you know India was central to the British Empire, but just like Hong Kong it is officially not run by the British anymore. It seems odd that we should help our opponents at our expense like this so much. This brings me to the issue of when exactly was all of this power relinquished? Also what were the Bolsheviks doing in the City of London with those Jewish bankers who loaned them all of that money to set up a 'rival' power, as seen during the Cold War? So, did it really fall or did it just go underground?

30-09-2007, 07:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Baron von Lotsov Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 718	It's just my conclusion after a few years of research on the subject. I'm just reading a book at the moment on the British Empire, published in 1890, which pretty much confirms what actually took place in our history and backs up the above. It's simply inconceivable that the huge wealth generated up to this time in history, estimated at £200 billion suddenly failed to have any further influence. Sure it got reinvested and the East India Company had served its purpose but it never declined, it just grew and grew. From import/export it was then channelled into industry and railroads and many other things all round the world. These new businesses made so much more money that the company that financed them fell into insignificance and was closed down as a liability. Loaning money to governments was a far safer business to be in.