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Old 05-07-2008, 03:21 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:07 PM   #222 (permalink)
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In your 9 months as a member? My point is that you attack all nationalists not just the BNP. Mikeuk waded in to take your side against me and you attacked him. He is a traditional Tory. I would describe myself as a nationalist consevative and I suppose jack Black would be a White Nationalist and you attack us all as wll as the BNP members. So, have you had a bad experience? Why the obsession with fighting nationalism?
If I am part of the problem, might I ask what you do for the cause apart from try to turn people against it?
I heartily sorry for having to disagree with MikeUK but I will not fall into the trap which has crippled nationalism for decades. I will not ally myself to people whose opinions on most subjects are in direct opposition to my own. Particularly if that means I find myself in league with a guy who thinks China is a good model of societal organisation and that drug users should be shot.

Jack Black is simply an anti-Semite, that is the basis of his entire intellectual world. He is as bad if not worse than the current elites. I would not ally myself to him under any circumstances.

I don't attack BNP members as a group, I have scrupulously reported them as I found them, decent and selfless people trying to do the best they can for their communities and country. Individual BNP members like BlueBlood 1920 who appear to be harboring some very nasty views and they will not be shielded by their membership cards.

I also refute the allegation I am fighting nationalism, I am trying to reclaim it from people who have placed all their prejudices and views under its banner at tremendous cost to a sound ideology. I have made the case for nationalism on this forum extensively.

I believe that nationalism has to make a stand against the people who have infiltrated it and corrupted it and until it does it can have no effect on our society.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:31 PM   #223 (permalink)
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I heartily sorry for having to disagree with MikeUK but I will not fall into the trap which has crippled nationalism for decades. I will not ally myself to people whose opinions on most subjects are in direct opposition to my own. Particularly if that means I find myself in league with a guy who thinks China is a good model of societal organisation and that drug users should be shot.

Jack Black is simply an anti-Semite, that is the basis of his entire intellectual world. He is as bad if not worse than the current elites. I would not ally myself to him under any circumstances.

I don't attack BNP members as a group, I have scrupulously reported them as I found them, decent and selfless people trying to do the best they can for their communities and country. Individual BNP members like BlueBlood 1920 who appear to be harboring some very nasty views and they will not be shielded by their membership cards.

I also refute the allegation I am fighting nationalism, I am trying to reclaim it from people who have placed all their prejudices and views under its banner at tremendous cost to a sound ideology. I have made the case for nationalism on this forum extensively.

I believe that nationalism has to make a stand against the people who have infiltrated it and corrupted it and until it does it can have no effect on our society.
You dont know me, so how can you say I am harboring nasty views? I am a White British Nationalist, but I dont hate anyone. Those that know me will know I dont have a problem with jews and think people who go on about jews conspiracy theories are idiots. I also believe that gays can be Nationalists just as much as straight people. So I guess you must be suggesting my views on race are nasty.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:55 PM   #224 (permalink)
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You dont know me, so how can you say I am harboring nasty views? I am a White British Nationalist, but I dont hate anyone. Those that know me will know I dont have a problem with jews and think people who go on about jews conspiracy theories are idiots. I also believe that gays can be Nationalists just as much as straight people. So I guess you must be suggesting my views on race are nasty.
Big mamma Ebanks? I wouldn't disagree with calling Asylum Seekers cockroaches?

Your defense of Collett is strongly suggestive that you share his views.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:06 PM   #225 (permalink)
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Big mamma Ebanks? I wouldn't disagree with calling Asylum Seekers cockroaches?

Your defense of Collett is strongly suggestive that you share his views.
Well lets put it this way me and that woman don't get on and me calling her that was just mocking her. Well whats wrong with calling them that?

Also Collett has said things in the past when he was younger and he was mixing with more of the undesirable fringes of Nationalism. He has said he was wrong to say what he said, also I have talked to him and he has changed his views. But maybe you are one of these people that think someone cant change their opinion from those they held when they were younger. What ever suits your agenda.
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The reporters only give attention to comments they find extreme and if it did not go there way they would have not even shown anything.

The reporter was clearly looking for comments on the Nazis or hate and would have tried everything to get the responses he wanted. The reporter was targeting a young man who was seeking attention and I believe if any young man was manipulated in such a way they would have given similar responses. Every day you here young people bragging about crimes and saying things behind peoples back to get attention even if they don’t believe in what they are saying or did not even do what they said they did.

Many have said they have seen racist comments in the BNP but have spent months or years to find them and made flimsy connections. I believe if you looked at any organisation in the same way you would find lists of similar comments and actions. When I was at school racist comments, small explosives, vandalism and drugs was a daily occurrence and this also reflects into wider society. With an estimated 15,000 membership there will be very nasty elements in the BNP but there have been plenty of nasty people and allegations in other political parties.

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Well done? So what went wrong?

I have been on dozens of leafleting expeditions with the following groups, South Bham, East Bham, Bedworth, Tamworth and canvassed with Bedworth and Sandwell. Good enough?

How would that be a fair test? I would have to get a Party ticket and that would distort the result.
Yes so why didnt you stand?
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Well it seemed to work rather better than Collett's efforts, regarded as useless by everyone who ever expressed a view on them to me. Indeed most units prefer to print there own so dire are the efforts supplied by Head Office.
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Yes so why didnt you stand?
At the time I was hoping to train to be a teacher, obviously that would not have been possible if I had stood for the BNP.
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