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Old 06-07-2008, 09:51 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Well it seemed to work rather better than Collett's efforts, regarded as useless by everyone who ever expressed a view on them to me. Indeed most units prefer to print there own so dire are the efforts supplied by Head Office.
If that was used in the GLA elections then you would have noticed that the Greens got an awful lot of publicity with their candidate being on most debates.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:55 PM   #232 (permalink)
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Wowbanger, you should be in this debate promoting gay love -

1.5 million turn out for NY 'Gay Pride' march
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Old 06-07-2008, 10:06 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Well lets put it this way me and that woman don't get on and me calling her that was just mocking her. Well whats wrong with calling them that?

Also Collett has said things in the past when he was younger and he was mixing with more of the undesirable fringes of Nationalism. He has said he was wrong to say what he said, also I have talked to him and he has changed his views. But maybe you are one of these people that think someone cant change their opinion from those they held when they were younger. What ever suits your agenda.
If you wanted to disparage Mrs Ebanks any number of options are open to you, her anti semitism which once lead her to advocate an alliance with Birmingham's Islamic community being one obvious candidate. Yet you prefer to use a term of racial abuse?

The same can be said about your support for Collett's "cockroach" comment, as a member of the BNP you are going to be suspected of being a racist idiot, as soon as you start making comments like these is very much a case of QED.

When did Collett say he was wrong? Just like Griffin he has stopped talking about the things for which he is reviled but he has not retracted or apologized for any of them verbally or in print as far as I know.

Moreover I heard him myself talking fondly about fascist symbols about a year ago. Neither of them has changed their views one iota.

The things which Collett and Griffin have said are so abhorrent that they will never be forgiven by the electorate. Griffin might have been able to convince some people (like me) that he had genuinely changed but following his backing of Collett and his disgusting totalitarian behavior during the Grayham affair only a fool could believe he is not the man he always was.

So we have a situation where you have thrown away the benefit of the doubt and are supporting people that everyone with an interest in the subject and an objective view point believes to be disingenuous fascists. What conclusion does that suggest to you?
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Why don't you keep these internal squabbles for a BNP or voiceof Change forum?
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If that was used in the GLA elections then you would have noticed that the Greens got an awful lot of publicity with their candidate being on most debates.
So what? They beat the BNP in Henley as well. They have more councilors and two MEP's of course they are going to get more time on Question Time. They could equally argue that the BNP has far more press coverage.
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Wowbanger, you should be in this debate promoting gay love -

1.5 million turn out for NY 'Gay Pride' march
Glad to see you coming around David, I'll see what I can do.
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Why don't you keep these internal squabbles for a BNP or voiceof Change forum?
Because then the BNP sirens could lure more desperate UKIPers to their doom with their total misrepresentation of the Party.

Plus neither exist.
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You have your own British Nationalism Forum to use for attacking nationalism..
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You have your own British Nationalism Forum to use for attacking nationalism..
I refer you to the answer I gave earlier (on the complaints board)
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Because then the BNP sirens could lure more desperate UKIPers to their doom with their total misrepresentation of the Party.

Plus neither exist.
For every siren there are of course two megaphones without batteries desperately trying to make themselves heard. First of all UKIP members and supporters are by and large quite able to make a rational assessment of whether to join the BNP or not. As they are doing so in increasing numbers due mainly to the ever lacklustre election performances of their former party, I welcome their contribution and input into further developing the BNP and making its public profile more electable.

Cherrypicking selected remarks often taken out of context or uttered in the confines of a private gathering in a bar should not be taken seriously by anyone.

The BNP remains under considerable attack not least by the expelled Ms Ebanks and all the other extremists that have been exposed and expelled, by the modernising leadership. That is why the neo-nazis hate Griffin with such a vengeance.
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